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To: conimbricenses; marron; RWGinger; brytlea; alecqss; Marty; Vaquero; RummyChick; ...

There's STILL some more to this story. Freepers exposed this weeks ago — see more here and read forward (on the LONG 10,000-plus post thread).

According to additional research on this subject, there's additional complexities to this chapter of east African history, but it is mostly-correct to say Mombasa was NOT fully Zanzibar Sultan-owned, as it was under dispute by the Sultan, the Germans, the Brits and the even the Locals who felt the area was an autonomous and sovereign state. Since the MSM, DemocratUnderground and KOS use WIKI as their primary reference, it's of little wonder they are so misinformed.

A very important aspect of this is that Mombasa lies is what is known as the ten-mile strip. It is a VERY LITTLE KNOWN FACT that it became sovereign approximately two months BEFORE Kenya gained its independence — SEE THE LAST PARAGRAPH AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST.

Via various agreements, the Brits leased the strategically-important Ten-Mile Strip coastal region from the Sultan of Zanzibar for £11,000 per year in 1895 — the Germans also had it under agreement with the Sultan in 1890. The Sultan RETAINED OWNERSHIP despite occupation by the British, which made the area UNIQUE from the other lands in the British and German Protectorates.

Mombasa is on the bottom right of THIS map:
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Here's some more here:
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Lastly, this is from a VERY IMPORTANT portion of an Official Kenyan Report on this matter:
The Constitution of Kenya Review Commission - [Cached Version]

Robertson further recommended that the British Government abrogate the 1895 Agreement with the Sultan of Zanzibar and that another Agreement be made between the Government of Kenya and the Sultan of Zanzibar whereby the Sultan of Zanzibar will surrender his Sovereignty claims over the Coastal strip in consideration of the Kenya Government undertaking to respect and safeguarding inter alia the maintenance of the Sharia Law for Muslims and the retention of the Kadhi’s Courts.
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On the 5th October 1963, the said Agreement was actually executed in the form of an exchange of letters between the Prime Ministers of Kenya and Zanzibar Messrs Jomo Kenyatta and M. Shamte respectively.


29 posted on 09/07/2009 6:32:27 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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Hey! This is some of my research! Very cool BP2!


30 posted on 09/07/2009 6:40:39 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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Holy Cow. Looks like my knowledge of East African history was incomplete...


35 posted on 09/07/2009 10:10:50 PM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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A quick thought on determining the authenticity of the alleged ebay birth certificate (http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/lucassmithkenyabirthcertificate.jpg ) - find an authentic signature of James A.W. Ang'awa. This might not be as hard as it seems to someone who knows where to research. Ang'awa was a fairly prominent doctor in Kenya's early post-independence years. He was a medical advisor to Kenya's Olympics team and studied medicine in the late 50's at the Welsh National Medical School in Cardiff.

Either might be a place to start for research, as both likely have records on him. Locating a signature for comparison would probably go a long way to validating or disproving this certificate, because it is obscure enough that it would be difficult to forge but not so obscure that it cannot be verified at all.

37 posted on 09/07/2009 11:03:50 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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