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To: AndrewC
Who still claim it means something of a gift to Sternberg to be sponsored.

RA status is a privilege.

The two investigations still remain pointing out the mistreatment of Sternberg.

Investigations I proved to be flawed.

Are you really that dense?

You're the one railing against the involvement of Sternberg's main defender.

You are not going to get away with that twisting of your statement

People have been interested in science in general. This modern-day supposed controversy and growing public interest in it is the result of the planned and coordinated ID campaign.

NCSE HAD NO BUSINESS

According to you.

IOW, he is a "real" scientist according to your personal definition.

He was able to compartmentalize. Eventually he wasn't able to do that and thus blew his professional reputation as a scientist, something that caused much resentment among his colleagues.

Oh, I forgot, that couldn't have been resentment he himself caused, it was unwarranted persecution, right? When someone is irresponsible and conspires to push a substandard paper through a prestigious journal there should be no repercussions if he's an IDer.

Failure to take responsibility for your actions, cry persecution over the natural repercussions to your actions. Hmmm, that sounds familiar...

Congratulations, you are now on the road to being a politically-correct protected class!

803 posted on 09/10/2009 7:40:23 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
RA status is a privilege.

Yes, to all research associates. A paying job at SI is also a privilege. But there are legal rules and ethical rules that apply for both the appointer and the appointee. Nothing that Sternberg did was counter to his requirements. His sponsor stated as much in the emails.

Investigations I proved to be flawed.

Your opinions are not proof.

You're the one railing against the involvement of Sternberg's main defender.

Yet again, "NCSE HAD NO BUSINESS...

This modern-day supposed controversy and growing public interest in it is the result of the planned and ...

This is Shapiro's statement again ...Although such purists as Dennett and Dawkins repeatedly assert that the scientific issues surrounding evolution are basically solved by conventional neo-Darwinism, the ongoing public fascination reveals a deeper wisdom.

That has nothing to do with ID.

According to you.

Yes, according to me. They have no affliation with SI and are in no chain of supervision over Sternberg. Simple logic proves "NCSE HAS NO BUSINESS..."

Eventually he wasn't able to do that and thus blew his professional reputation as a scientist, something that caused much resentment among his colleagues.

You are saying they resented that, according to you, he blew his reputation as a scientist? Preposterous and false. The Meyer incident happened in Jun 2004. He has had peer reviewed articles published since then. I gave you one.

Oh, I forgot, that couldn't have been resentment he himself caused,

Yeah he was breathing. In any case, NCSE instigated the witch hunt at SI and of course, "NCSE HAD NO BUSINESS..."

804 posted on 09/10/2009 10:48:21 AM PDT by AndrewC
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