[raybbr]

I know a little bit about alcoholics, I married into a family of them 52 years ago. The only one in that family that didn't drink is the man I married. He hates alcohol.

Did any of them get sober? Did they get involved in AA? Did they stop drinking? Did you go Al-Anon?

IF the answer to any of those questions is "no" then you probably know nothing about alcoholics and AA - just that they drink too much and can be jerks either drunk or not drunk.

[Ditter]

My father in law was a binge drinker and a very successful business man. All of his 4 brothers were winos, living under the bridge winos. If any of them ever went to AA I am not aware of it. I had very little contact with the wino brothers and most of the time my F-I-L was sober. Growing up in that family is what convinced my husband to never take a drink.