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“I said
“ Now we can argue validly that the public plan, as proposed, will lead to single payer, and we know the democrat proponents for the public plan are for single payer.”

It is not a matter of IF it will lead to s single payer plan. The REALITY is, it will.

Again, Obama CAMPAIGNED on a SINGLE PAYER PLAN by the government. Obama proposed that during the election! Where have you been? It’s not a question of “validity”. It is common sense that eventually it will be a the single payer plan Obama WANTS and CAMPAIGNED on.

You and other Demoncrats cannot argue with any credibility that Obama did not campaign on a single payer plan, the government, or that this is the logical conclusion of his health care plan. Obama ADMITS his single payer plan will ELIMINATE private health care and that is his goal. He STATES a single payer plan through government is his goal. Again, Obama campaigned on it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAPLb-HVcM

In his own wrods, Obama admits, single payer health care will eliminate private care. This is his goal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

“Death panels is still a huge stretch, it’s like when Michael Moores Sicko claims insurance companies kill people. Cutting Medicare should NOT be equated with killing people. This is dangerous short term strategy,”

No, there is no “stretch” going on here.

You need to read this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204683204574358590107981718.html

I really don’t understand you .... It is CLEAR in the videoa and even if it wasn’t, common sense should kick in at some point.

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RE :” Again, Obama CAMPAIGNED on a SINGLE PAYER PLAN by the government”

Obama did not campaign on a single payer last Fall, last fall he promised universal coverage but didnt give the details. Now he is telling democrats and us that public plan is universal.

This is the third time I posted this so please get someone to read it to you:“and we know the democrat proponents for the public plan are for single payer.”

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Look, the idea that cutting medicare funds will kill old people is a SOCIALIST idea, and socialism is near communism, I wont support it no matter what you say. Especialy when that thinking is destroying our country.