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To: PIF
Why would that idea die? It is an idea that needs to be worked into - slowly as events unfold (or made to unfold). The people who you seem to be counting on to explain all this to Him are the very people who would most favor such an idea. When people like that are given power, it is the end and the means that are important not their lives, c.f. the Russian Revolution.

As far as citizen being armed to the teeth, remember the philosophy of “kill them all and let G-d sort it out” - they would not hesitate (once that far) to eliminate whole swaths of population, c.f. China's Cultural Revolution.

The Russian Revolution/Cultural Revolution in China are bad examples to prove your point, for the simple reason that the US has, and uses, the Second  Amendment. Both those countries never had an armed populace to any extent. The US has more legally owned weapons than the current population, and god knows how many that are uncounted from before WWII.

Second, who is gonna do the shooting? The Army!?!

Are you a veteran? When you were in, would you have followed orders to shoot American citizens?

While I freely admit that probably some can be found would shoot Americans, I'm damn sure that 90+ % of currently serving and trained soldiers would shoot whoever gave them the order, then proceed to shoot anyone who followed it. I'm sure as hell I would. One of the things they're trained on is what constitutes an illegal order.

Last, do you have any idea how long it would take to select and train enough people who would follow that order, before the war started? Or any idea of the number of these 'cannon fodder' it would take just to take on just our civilian hunters, and win?

Hell, it took months to train cannon fodder back in Napoleon's day, let alone now. Do you have any idea how much maintenance goes into a mini-gun, or grenade launcher? Movement under fire? Pack'n'Stack building clearance? And that's just off the top of an old Vietnam Sailor's head.

I'm a pretty cynical-to-pessimistic guy, but I just don't buy it.

257 posted on 08/23/2009 10:41:41 AM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: Right Winged American

The examples are to the thinking of the people involved in pushing the revolution not the people being taken over.

The shooting will be done by the New Americorp personel after the US Mil is disbaned by Ex. Order and their toys given to said Corp.

Did my 4. In my case I was both a tactical and strategic nuclear target in the even of war - strategic by the 8th Shock Army and tactical by some arty brigade in Frankfurt.

I don’t think it will matter about training - just the shock value of a single tank firing on a crowd will dive the point home, not to mention a single B52 dropping its load over a point of resistance - I’m sure they could find enough trained personel in or out to work the thing.

Meanwhile as all internal US comm is shut down, they can train as needed, while thugs do the rousting of likely resistance leaders. The scare/fear factor will keep most people’s heads down, especially after the mass arrests and disappearances begin.

But if you think this crowd in office now is going to allow the likes of us to vote them out - well, I guess you are entitled to hope.


339 posted on 08/23/2009 12:20:08 PM PDT by PIF
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