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To: EternalVigilance
5. When asked about a seemingly random calamity near Jerusalem where 18 people were killed, Jesus answered in general terms—an answer that would cover calamities in Minneapolis, Taiwan, or Baghdad. God’s message is repent, because none of us will otherwise escape God’s judgment.

Jesus: “Those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:4-5)

On this point, I believe Piper is stating the complete opposite of what Jesus was saying. The 18 on whom the tower fell were not worse than others, and ALL need to come to repentence. The tower was not punishment because they were no more guilty than any others who had not come to repentence.

It's not that God couldn't or wouldn't send particular judgement in this situation. (Obviously homosexuality is an abomination). It's just that Piper can in no way know what God was doing and why. If this particular tornado was a particular judgement then what about the thousands of other tornadoes and storms that have struck and killed people?

It's just not solid theology, EV.

14 posted on 08/22/2009 11:20:49 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

“It’s just not solid theology...”

What is solid, however, is that the laws of physics work ... whether you want them to or not.

Otherwise, why say “be careful?”

... awaiting my 5054 lesson in gravity.


23 posted on 08/22/2009 7:58:56 PM PDT by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
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