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To: nmh

How is it “ignorant and disgusting” to point out that you are criticizing someone for something you yourself aren’t doing?

Many times he has been criticized on this site for being a coward for not addressing muslims but now that he is he is being called a coward for not going their in person. Guess it is impossible to please some people.

If you are currently in the Middle East I retract my original statement.


52 posted on 08/22/2009 2:54:34 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

“How is it “ignorant and disgusting” to point out that you are criticizing someone for something you yourself aren’t doing?”

You are terribly ignorant about Christianity. God didn’t make robots who have the same function. The body of Christ consists of people posessing different gifts. Some are good organizers. Some are good fund raisers. Some are front line field people who will dare to venture into enemy territory, funded by fund raisers and organizers. The body of Christ works together to accomplish goals. God respects our differences and lets us shine with our uniwue abilities.

“Many times he has been criticized on this site for being a coward for not addressing muslims but now that he is he is being called a coward for not going their in person. Guess it is impossible to please some people.”

Again, you do not understand the body of Christ. Some of us $upport them financiallyt because we are unable to be there. Our family supports them finanically and defends Christianity - such as what I am doing now and tries to enlighten folks like you. Again, our God created all of us in His image but each of us are different. Even in the secular world you should understand this. Not all will be mathamaticians. Some will be good fund raisers like the Clinton’s. Some will excell in corruption and fraud like ACORN. How you use your unique ability is up to the individual. The same is true in Christianity.

“If you are currently in the Middle East I retract my original statement.”

I can only hope by now you understand the silliness of your statement.

A wonderful organization we zealously support is Compassion Internaional. It is a Bible based charity that financially supports Christians in Muslim countries. We support those in Thailand.

http://www.compassion.com/default.htm

We are partial to children so we support and correspond with them. We also send them gifts. It is most rewarding.

We also support missionaries. I can’t tell you how uplifting it is to do this. So within the body of Christ, we support fellow Christians. Christians are not robots that all do the same thing but the goal is a common one - reach others about Christ and get them on board, by choice.

I will not go further in discussing what we all support and do since that would be prideful and therefore unChristian.

Prayer is a pwerful weapon ALL Christians have at their disposal. He hears all prayers that are directed to Him. That is a weapon the transends money and people. I wish I could tell you how many times the unexplainable has happened - through prayer - no $$$, no “armey” - simply prayer.

Voice of the Martys is another website I will mention. I leave it up to you to look it up and search through it. Even if you don’t I hope you have a more accurate view of Christianity and what roles Christians perform to make a difference in the lives of others. The difficult part is that Christians go about their roles quietly ... otherwise it is considered prideful.

I wonder ... what have you done for others? Anything?


56 posted on 08/22/2009 4:16:50 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: DevNet
I have to share this with you as well.

As a Christian, I find these times to be exciting as well as disappointing (Obama = EVIL) times.

When I mentioned prayer as a weapon that transcends all other approaches I mean it!

I share this with you:

The following is an excerpt from National & International Religion Report.

More and more Muslims are having dreams and visions of Christ, Christian ministries say. There is increasing evidence that the supernatural is playing a role in drawing Muslims to Christ.

Campus Crusade for Christ has received thousands of letters from Muslims, many of whom claim to have had a similar dream of Christ, according to the ministry's radio broadcast office in northern Africa. In the dream, Jesus appears and tells people, “I am the way,” Campus Crusade founder and president Bill Bright said. Moved by the dreams, they contact the radio ministry and “freely respond” to the gospel message, he said. In Algeria, an imprisoned Muslim political radical said Jesus appeared to her in her cell. The woman now is a Christian and works with Campus Crusade ministering to Muslims.

In one African Muslim country, a young man violently tore up a Bible tract and threatened the life of the Every Home For Christ worker going door-to-door with the literature, Dick Eastman of Colorado Springs-based EHFC told NIRR. The next afternoon as the worker sat in his home, he was shocked to see the man knock at his door. “I must have another booklet,” the Muslim told him. He explained that the previous night two hands awakened him, and when he turned on the light and asked who was there, a voice said, “You have torn up the truth.” The voice instructed him to acquire another booklet, directing him to the EHFC worker's home, the young man said. There, the Muslim read the booklet and became a believer. He has since been expelled from his wealthy family, lives with EHFC’s Africa director, and is preparing for ministry to Muslims.

In another incident, several EHFC workers were distributing literature in a marketplace. A man who received a booklet gasped and said he had a vision of the person pictured on the cover in his dream the night before, Eastman said. In the dream, the man was in a deep pit when a rope was thrown to him and two strong hands pulled him up. Upon climbing out, he looked into the face of the man who helped him: Jesus. The workers explained the meaning of the dream and the man was converted on the spot. Later, three other people recounted the same dream and two of them became Christians, Eastman said. God is preparing Muslims, and Christian workers follow through, he said.

More here:

http://www.epm.org/artman2/publish/missions_true_stories/Dreams_Visions_Move_Muslims_To_Christ.shtml

If you were part of the Christian community, you'd be familiar with this.

It's prophecy being fulfilled.

Acts.2:17

[17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Gospel for Muslims is a growing organization that DEPEND on the generosity of Christians to go about their work.

Gospel for Muslims, Inc. (GFM) is a Christian organization dedicated to bringing hope to the 1.3 billion Muslims around the world by helping Muslims follow Christ!

Dr. Abraham Sarker, a former Muslim and author of Understanding My Muslim People, and his wife, Amie, founded GFM to help Muslims follow Christ—through outreach, discipleship, and equipping believers for Muslim

http://www.gospelformuslims.com/

There are many such organizations that not only support the Middle East but other countries like Costa Rica ... our church supports Guatemala and we pay our way and go over there to get others on board for Christ and support them during the year as well as other organziations. What's truly interesting is the MORE you give of yourself, whether it be money, time, direct effort - the more you are blessed.

Some are cut out for direct missionary work, others are helpers, fund raisers, organizers, speakers, teachers etc.. The same is true of any secular organization - people have different roles and contribute to the end goal - which in the case of Christianity is to spread His message and give people a choice.

You'll have to pardon my excitement ... I just had to try and further explain how our God works through people.

57 posted on 08/22/2009 4:29:31 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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