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To: real_patriotic_american
Is Obama's grandmother's signature on Obama's 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate---the one with spaces for a doctor signature and a hospital name---as a WITNESS to Obama's birth?

That is, in 1961, did Grandma Dunham LIE on Obama's Hawaii long form birth certificate by signing her name in the WITNESS space, when, in reality, she NEVER "witnessed" Obama's non-hospital birth?

1. Could the main reason that Obama is spending $500,000 to $1,000,000, and counting, to have high-priced lawyers fight to keep Obama's long form birth certificate and Obama's Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records out of the courts and out of the dirty hands of birthers be this: Grandma Dunham's signature is in the space for "witness"?

2. 1961 Hawaii peculiar birth certificate rules: Remember, way back in 1961, Hawaii allowed parents to merely mail in a child's birth certificate if the child was NOT born in a hospital. The doctor and midwife spaces could be left empty if a doctor or midwife was not present at the birth.

3. However, as I understand it, someone had to sign as a WITNESS to the home birth.

4. My theory is this: Obama was NOT born in a Hawaii hospital, and so one reason he is fighting so hard to keep his long form birth certificate from being displayed in court for everyone to see is that there is no hospital name on his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate.

5. But if Obama was NOT born in a hospital and NOT under the care of a doctor or midwife, then who was the WITNESS who signed the birth certificate stating that he/she was a witness to Obama's birth before the birth certificate was mailed to the Hawaii vital statistics department?

6. There had to be a WITNESS signature. How about Grandma Dunham being that WITNESS?

7. Did Grandma Dunham sign it?

8. How about this theory: The main reason that Obama does not want us to see his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate is that Grandma Dunham signed it, that is, she LIED that she was a WITNESS to Obama's birth, when, in reality, Grandma Dunham was not at Obama's birth at all.

9. So, I say this: Obama must stand up and be a man by allowing Hawaii to release his 1961 birth certificate so that we can find out that a doctor signed or did not sign the birth certificate as the WITNESS to Obama's birth.

10. However, if we find out that a doctor did not sign Obama's birth certificate, then, sadly, we may find out that it was Grandma Dunham who LIED and signed the birth certificate as a WITNESS to Obama's birth.

26 posted on 08/20/2009 10:23:20 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse; cameraeye

Your comments strengthen my opinion that Obama was born in Kenya and that his grandparents could have mailed in the birth certificate to Hawaii. BTW, I’ve read that Obama has spent over $1.4 million in legal fees.

“john mirse” wrote-

“Is Obama’s grandmother’s signature on Obama’s 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate-—the one with spaces for a doctor signature and a hospital name-—as a WITNESS to Obama’s birth?
That is, in 1961, did Grandma Dunham LIE on Obama’s Hawaii long form birth certificate by signing her name in the WITNESS space, when, in reality, she NEVER “witnessed” Obama’s non-hospital birth?

1. Could the main reason that Obama is spending $500,000 to $1,000,000, and counting, to have high-priced lawyers fight to keep Obama’s long form birth certificate and Obama’s Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records out of the courts and out of the dirty hands of birthers be this: Grandma Dunham’s signature is in the space for “witness”?

2. 1961 Hawaii peculiar birth certificate rules: Remember, way back in 1961, Hawaii allowed parents to merely mail in a child’s birth certificate if the child was NOT born in a hospital. The doctor and midwife spaces could be left empty if a doctor or midwife was not present at the birth.

3. However, as I understand it, someone had to sign as a WITNESS to the home birth.

4. My theory is this: Obama was NOT born in a Hawaii hospital, and so one reason he is fighting so hard to keep his long form birth certificate from being displayed in court for everyone to see is that there is no hospital name on his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate.

5. But if Obama was NOT born in a hospital and NOT under the care of a doctor or midwife, then who was the WITNESS who signed the birth certificate stating that he/she was a witness to Obama’s birth before the birth certificate was mailed to the Hawaii vital statistics department?

6. There had to be a WITNESS signature. How about Grandma Dunham being that WITNESS?

7. Did Grandma Dunham sign it?

8. How about this theory: The main reason that Obama does not want us to see his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate is that Grandma Dunham signed it, that is, she LIED that she was a WITNESS to Obama’s birth, when, in reality, Grandma Dunham was not at Obama’s birth at all.

9. So, I say this: Obama must stand up and be a man by allowing Hawaii to release his 1961 birth certificate so that we can find out that a doctor signed or did not sign the birth certificate as the WITNESS to Obama’s birth.

10. However, if we find out that a doctor did not sign Obama’s birth certificate, then, sadly, we may find out that it was Grandma Dunham who LIED and signed the birth certificate as a WITNESS to Obama’s birth.”


30 posted on 08/21/2009 5:16:36 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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