Posted on 08/18/2009 6:30:34 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
Indeed. One would think the clerk woke up with the notion of killing someone from reading the posts here.
I have zero sympathy for the ripoff artist, or his accomplice. And as for the liberal DA in Austin, may he be ripped off daily until he gets an inkling of who the real criminals are.
So then if I go and grab jewelry from ajewelry store nobody can touch me????
I agree, if I didn’t feel threatened, I imagine I would not use deadly force either. But, I just think this is what we are in for, as people get more frightened and angry. And I know in the human being is the ability to do things we consider grossly uncivilized. That is why I have never understood a generation (or 2) who thinks it’s a good idea to destroy what took thousands of years to build, a civil society.
He was being robbed, he had a right to shoot to kill.
If a man is braking into your home, are you suppose to question him about his intentions before you shoot to know if he was braking in to get beer out of your refrigerator or was there to rape and slaughter your family?
The Texas law allows deadly force at night to protect property that can not be recovered otherwise.
I’m not comfortable with shooting someone for a case of beer that belongs to my employer.
On the other hand, there is an old west saying which states: We don’t hang horse thieves for stealing horses. We hang horse thieves so others won’t steal horses.
This sort of reminds me of the scene in “American Graffiti”.
I don’t know about that. In Texas, AFAIK, you can shoot thieves and skulkers in the night on your property. While the reaction is well overboard in this case from a societal perspective in general, getting even a manslaughter charge will probably be work for the prosecutor. While I personally wouldn’t shoot a guy for stealing a 12 pack, I can see the frustration at general lawlessness contributing to ends like this.
A few years back they had a case in Texas where a person fired a rifle into the cab of a tow truck repo’ing a car from the guy at O’dark thirty in the morning, killing the driver. He was aquitted of any wrongdoing and the admonition was, IIRC, that if you had to do something like that you needed to do it in broad daylight and get the Sheriff with you if needed...
I might agree that shooting the guy was wrong IF it had only been a SIX pack, but a TWELVE pack? You have to draw the line somewhere.
Well put.
Depends on the beer. Budweiser certainly ain’t worth it.
Here is my bottom line on property theft: You are stealing my life. The things I own that weren’t “given” to me cost me hours of my life to obtain.
Those hours I spent obtaining them through hard work, I would MUCH rather have spent with my family or fishing.
I feel NO sympathy for those who steal, ESPECIALLY considering the billions spent every year on charitable resources in this country that insure that NO ONE goes hungry unless they are too lazy to take advantage of said resources.
Bottom line: Stolen property = stolen life...
I don't either. If we want to keep the right to self defense, we need to keep out powder dry for when we are really defending ourselves.
Just my opinion...
The person who brought up the example of a hurricane where looters are taking items from a store hit the nail on the head.
If you are stealing something from my store, I have every right to shot you, period.
Kill a man over a pack of beer? I really dont get that mentality.
At what value would you get that mentality? Personally I wouldn’t have done it but then the guy was deliberately stealing, went there to do so and got killed for his criminal actions.
They can touch you and more, but the law says they aren't supposed to shoot to kill you. Now if you were in England, they would be in trouble if they touched you.
Bub is never a beer to die for. It is p(** water.
I can hear the late-night parody writers kicking into overdrive...”The One Beer to Have, When You’re Going to Get Shot for It!” or, “We Salute You, Mr. Case-Snatching Target Practice Shoplifter Guy”, or “If I were going to get shot for a beer, I’d be sure and make it a Dos Equis....stay thirsty, my friend!”
“Kill a man over a pack of beer? I really dont get that mentality.”
As a young man it may seem reasonable at the time, however, this guy is going to learn why it’s just not worth the sh*tstorm and expense he will go through (especially since he tampered with evidence). Once you do that, it makes the Grand jury and DA’s job alot easier.
You know I asked myself that question and I guess I don’t really have an answer. I very possibly might shoot at a guy stealing my car, but then that begs the question what’s the dividing line dollar wise? I guess it’s under $1500, since I would definitely blast a guy trying to steal the ring my wife inherited from her mother.
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