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You might be a Birther if...
American Thinker ^ | 14 August 2009 | Kyle-Ann Shiver

Posted on 08/16/2009 4:45:55 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi

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This is what the Republican Party should be saying: 1) nothing but what is clearly established, and constitutes proof of a breathtaking contempt for We the People, the Rule of Law and Republican Government, and 2) laying the responsibility for the possible speculations at the feet of the Gray Communist, for hiding every official document about himself.
1 posted on 08/16/2009 4:45:55 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi
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To: Vincent Jappi
show me. I don't believe the obamanation tells the truth, so I want to see his records. I don't care what they call me for wanting the truth. I do know that in a country filled with LIES, if someone asked for TRUTH, that person is labeled as a revolutionary and enemy of the state.

that is what the birther bashing is about.

2 posted on 08/16/2009 4:51:55 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: Vincent Jappi

I am a birther.

The Kenyan Imposter is a fraud.


3 posted on 08/16/2009 4:53:22 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: Vincent Jappi

I’m sorry, but it is normal curiosity to wonder if he is really a citizen. Asking him to prove it is not a big deal except to Obama and his organization.

So... we are left in a quandary... to believe or not to believe...all due to the administrations non response.


4 posted on 08/16/2009 5:00:41 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Vincent Jappi
I'm convinced obama won't release his long form Hawaii birth certificate. He won't because he can't - he doesn't have one. He cannot find the right people to pay off to reliably, believable forge one. He and his cohorts in crime haven't found the right Hawaiian public servant, haven't found one they can corrupt or hold something over in exchange for fraud to create one.

So obama and crew will continue to try to ignore, demonize, or ridicule us "birthers." Go ahead obama, but we're not going anywhere. If you think this will go away obama, you're acting stupidly...

5 posted on 08/16/2009 5:02:33 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Vincent Jappi

You might be a birther if. . . .you have nothing better to do with your time.

C’mon, you got the COLB, birth announcements in the Hawaiian papers, American parentage on at least one side of the family. And, here’s the most important thing of all. He ran against Hillary Clinton. If he was not an American citizen, trust me, the Clinton mafia would have uncovered it during the campaign.

parsy, who loves a good conspiracy theory but, this ain’t it.


6 posted on 08/16/2009 5:03:01 PM PDT by parsifal ("Where am I? How did I end up in this hospital room? What is my name?" Anonymous)
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To: bareford101
show me. I don't believe the obamanation tells the truth

You're absolutely right. obama has been caught lying on other issues. We have no reason at all to believe him on the birth certificate issue. In fact, obama has been lying enough that we have no reason to trust him or believe him on anything, period. If his lips are moving, he's probably lying. I want proof of every single statement or claim he makes. I wouldn't even ask him the time of day and expect a truthful answer.

7 posted on 08/16/2009 5:06:08 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: parsifal

The COLB is evidence of nothing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2305999/posts
Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report


8 posted on 08/16/2009 5:16:53 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi (Google censorship of Taitz' blog?)
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To: Vincent Jappi
Sorry, but it has been found:

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9 posted on 08/16/2009 5:17:50 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: parsifal

My question is- Why does his Kenyan grandmother say he was born in Kenya?


10 posted on 08/16/2009 5:19:34 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Vincent Jappi

Do you really think that the republican congress critters dare to critisize their democrat colleagues from “across the aisle” on the subject of Obama’s BC? They all have only one objective — keep their job in Congress.


11 posted on 08/16/2009 5:20:07 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Vincent Jappi
MSM definition of "birther": Someone who believes Obama was definitely born in Kenya.

MSM definition of "long form birth certificate": See "birth certificate." All birth certificates are the same.

MSM definition of "Certificate of Live Birth": See "birth certificate." All birth certificates are the same.

MSM definition of "Certification of Live Birth": See "birth certificate." All birth certificates are the same.

MSM definition of "Certificate of Foreign Birth": See "birth certificate." All birth certificates are the same.

MSM definition of "Certificate of Delayed Birth": See "birth certificate." All birth certificates are the same.

MSM definition of "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth": See "birth certificate." All birth certificates are the same.

13 posted on 08/16/2009 5:27:16 PM PDT by TChad
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To: F15Eagle

This whole post has become ridiculous (for political reasons I’s suspect).

If his birth certificate was really a problem, many sites would be on it, but even if it is questionable, what are you going to do?

So...even if he is an illegal alien, it just does not matter, so, go beyond that and ex0ound on his ultra-liberal views...


15 posted on 08/16/2009 5:32:03 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: parsifal

I don’t think the Clinton Mafia angle holds up. The cultish hysteria over Obama,particularly among the black and youth voting segments, would have turned on the Clintons with a righteous fury, facts be damned.

The smarter calculation was to let Obama destroy himself.

In the meantime both Bill and Hillary are out there being (ostensibly) loyal supporters of the First Black President. When he self-destructs, nobody will be more (publicly) devastated by his tragic downfall than they. And they will, with sad reluctance, pick up the fallen mantle and carry bravely on-— with the grateful and total support of Obama’s once-fervent followers.

That none of Obama’s curricula vitae is available is a very legitimate concern; it is inconceivable that a responsible and dedicated public servant would spend extensive time and resources to avoid providing such basic information. It is the mark of a tyrant to so put himself above the law.

That Obama does so with apparent impunity implies utter corruption and/or complete intimidation of both Congress and the press.

The People are the Constitution’s last hope.


16 posted on 08/16/2009 5:33:25 PM PDT by Wife of D28Man
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To: Wife of D28Man

Birther Ping


17 posted on 08/16/2009 5:36:04 PM PDT by Batman11 (Chicago, Land of Lincoln who freed the slaves and Land of Obama who enslaved the free.)
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To: Vincent Jappi
-- laying the responsibility for the possible speculations at the feet of the Gray Communist, for hiding every official document about himself. --

That comment of yours triggers two thoughts in my mind. First, that eligibility for the office of president couldn't have hinged, in the minds of the founders, on merely a birth happening on US soil. In other words, I think the founders, in using the phrase "natural born citizen" to limit eligibility for the presidency, were calling for a child's parents to be Americans. Today's popular legal definition of "natural born" opens the door to people literally foreign to the US to be eligible.

My second point is that overlooking this consideration is a defect assignable to Congress. Eldridge Cleaver ran for president, and Congress would have had no trouble calling him unqualified on account of age. But Congress has no qualm, no question, no doubt, that a dual citizen at birth is eligible to be president, even if raised by foreigners in a foreign land (born on US soil = eligible. period.) That Congress did not confront the issue of dual citizenship as a possible barrier to the presidency speaks of Congress, not of the candidate.

As for me, I consider Obama ineligible, and Congress derelict.

18 posted on 08/16/2009 5:40:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: originalbuckeye

She was mistaken. I think that has already been established.

parsy, who looked a lot of this stuff up


19 posted on 08/16/2009 5:40:43 PM PDT by parsifal ("Where am I? How did I end up in this hospital room? What is my name?" Anonymous)
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Birther is a term that works well with their Nazi propaganda techniques:

Avoid abstract ideas and appeal instead to the emotions
The American People voted for Barack Hussein Obama can't we just move on?

Constant repetition of just a few ideas, using stereotyped phrases and avoiding objectivity.
Barack released his birth certificate. (Short form that does not reveal his parents citizenship nor hospital of birth.)

Put forth only one side of the argument
Barack released his birth certificate.

Constantly criticize enemies of the state
We hear from the Obamanistas about those evil, extremist, right-wing, hate-filled Republican birthers.

Identify one special enemy for special vilification
All together now . . . . . . BIRTHERS!!

20 posted on 08/16/2009 5:42:15 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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