Posted on 08/11/2009 8:07:08 PM PDT by mware
Praise the Lord. Folks in New jersey are even speaking out. Check out this video of a townhall with Congressman Rothman (D-NJ) To his credit this is one of 10 townhalls he has planned with his folks.
http://www.northjersey.com/multimedia/video/52913557.html
Something to look at... http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/july-26-2009/hispanic-caucus-tells-pelosi-health-bill-just-right-give-full-coverage-i
no offense taken my FRiend. I am still looking for the text. I think I saved it on my favorites. BRB
The RATs are telling the truth when the say that the illegals will not be covered. The RATs intend to grant the illegals amnesty and make them citizens before the 2010 elections. The RATs claim will then be true.
He’s in Secaucus AUG 13th thurs..Anyone on here going ?
I heard tonight that there are 5 different versions of the bill floating around. If that is the case it will be tough to accurately quote the page #.
I may not be in town on Thursday—but just in case—details, time and place?
Sneaky Bastards
Speaker Pelosi and others have been trying to say that the House plan doesn’t cover illegal aliens because it doesn’t specifically say that it does. Our allies, however, point out that unless legislation specifically bars illegal aliens from anything — and requires verification — illegal aliens always end up getting the benefit.
The fact that the Hispanic Caucus appears to be satisfied with the language the way it is suggests that our allies are right.
Roll Call reported that the CHS emphasized to Pelosi that she must block any language that would restrict the federal health plan to illegal aliens.
Once again, it appears that the Hispanic Caucus cares more about illegal aliens than Hispanic American citizens.
•HR 3200 IH
1 (1) IN GENERAL.—In the case of health insur2
ance coverage offered through the Health Insurance
3 Exchange—
4 (A) the requirements of this title do not
5 supercede any requirements (including require6
ments relating to genetic information non7
discrimination and mental health) applicable
8 under title XXVII of the Public Health Service
9 Act or under State law, except insofar as such
10 requirements prevent the application of a re11
quirement of this division, as determined by the
12 Commissioner; and
13 (B) individual rights and remedies under
14 State laws shall apply.
15 (2) CONSTRUCTION.—In the case of coverage
16 described in paragraph (1), nothing in such para17
graph shall be construed as preventing the applica18
tion of rights and remedies under State laws with
19 respect to any requirement referred to in paragraph
20 (1)(A).
21 SEC. 152. PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE.
22 (a) IN GENERAL.—Except as otherwise explicitly per23
mitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations con24
sistent with this Act, all health care and related services
25 (including insurance coverage and public health activities)
VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:22 Jul 14, 2009 Jkt 079200 PO 00000
7pm at the rutherford town hall on park ave. that’s what his schedule says
19 ‘‘(c) EXCEPTIONS.—
20 ‘‘(1) DEPENDENTS.—Subsection (a) shall not
21 apply to any individual for any taxable year if a de22
duction is allowable under section 151 with respect
23 to such individual to another taxpayer for any tax24
able year beginning in the same calendar year as
25 such taxable year.
VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:22 Jul 14, 2009 Jkt 079200 PO 00000 Frm 00169 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H3200.IH H3200 jlentini on DSKJ8SOYB1PROD with BILLS
170
•HR 3200 IH
1 ‘‘(2) NONRESIDENT ALIENS.—Subsection (a)
2 shall not apply to any individual who is a non3
resident alien.
4 ‘‘(3) INDIVIDUALS RESIDING OUTSIDE UNITED
5 STATES.—Any qualified individual (as defined in
6 section 911(d)) (and any qualifying child residing
7 with such individual) shall be treated for purposes of
8 this section as covered by acceptable coverage during
9 the period described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of
10 section 911(d)(1), whichever is applicable.
11 ‘‘(4) INDIVIDUALS RESIDING IN POSSESSIONS
12 OF THE UNITED STATES.—Any individual who is a
13 bona fide resident of any possession of the United
14 States (as determined under section 937(a)) for any
15 taxable year (and any qualifying child residing with
16 such individual) shall be treated for purposes of this
17 section as covered by acceptable coverage during
18 such taxable year.
19 ‘‘(5) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—
20 ‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—Subsection (a) shall
21 not apply to any individual (and any qualifying
22 child residing with such individual) for any pe23
riod if such individual has in effect an exemp24
tion which certifies that such individual is a
25 member of a recognized religious sect or divi-
sonic I can’t make any sense out of page 50 but 170 sure looks to me like they are exempt.
Thanks, I just went on your nj.com forum and found the e-mail there. I have e-mailed a few friends to see if they will tag along with me.
the bigger the turnout the better. i feel like a kid on christmas morning. there is nothing more satisfying than watching politicians sweat as they’re berated by the people.
I agree!!! I think I may bring popcorn this should be a heck of a show.
This is a pretty liberal part of NJ too.
ALL Repubs should be holding at least 2 or 3 TownHalls to show people they are having the meetings and listening to people. The GOP has been handed a gift.
We never used to be that “liberal” in southern Bergen. Too much influx, too much “change.” (yuck—that word has literally become akin to a four-letter word to me).
And yes, the GOP has been handed a gift and yes, they should be holding Town Hall Meetings of their own. Unfortunately, all our representatives are dems so we have to live with what we have.
Bingo. We are the frog being slowly boiled. They will do it incrementally and DeathCare is a Trojan Horse for amnesty.
We need to tell the GOP NO to any watered down deal MCCain and Graham-nesty and the other stinking RINOs push.
I had relatives over 30+ years due a weird transformation from Repubs to Dem goons. It must be the water or TV/newspaper media.
Thursday Rothman will be at the Secaucus Town Hall from 1 to 3 p.m. for a “listening session.”
SEC. 152. PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE.
(a) In General- Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.
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