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Why We Must Ration Health Care
NY Times ^ | 7/15/09 | Peter Singer

Posted on 08/10/2009 4:12:10 PM PDT by FrdmLvr

All the "best people" like Peter Singer, the bioethics professor from Princton who, a few short years ago, was advocating POST-NATAL ABORTIONS! praise Obama's Shovel-Ready Healthcare! Please read his article.

You have advanced kidney cancer. It will kill you, probably in the next year or two. A drug called Sutent slows the spread of the cancer and may give you an extra six months, but at a cost of $54,000. Is a few more months worth that much?

The costs of the current health care system are becoming increasingly clear, and public sentiment for a more systematic approach may be growing. We’d like to know what you think about the prospect of rationing.

If you can afford it, you probably would pay that much, or more, to live longer, even if your quality of life wasn’t going to be good. But suppose it’s not you with the cancer but a stranger covered by your health-insurance fund. If the insurer provides this man — and everyone else like him — with Sutent, your premiums will increase. Do you still think the drug is a good value? Suppose the treatment cost a million dollars. Would it be worth it then? Ten million? Is there any limit to how much you would want your insurer to pay for a drug that adds six months to someone’s life? If there is any point at which you say, “No, an extra six months isn’t worth that much,” then you think that health care should be rationed.

In the current U.S. debate over health care reform, “rationing” has become a dirty word. Meeting last month with five governors, President Obama urged them to avoid using the term, apparently for fear of evoking the hostile response that sank the Clintons’ attempt to achieve reform...

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KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; eugenics; petersinger; singer; utilitarians
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41 posted on 08/10/2009 7:01:49 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: FrdmLvr

Ah, Peter Singer. What’s also creepy and strangely ironic about this guy is that his parents escaped the Nazi’s (fled to Australia), but his grandparents weren’t quite so lucky - they died in a Nazi death camp.


42 posted on 08/10/2009 7:40:22 PM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: freekitty

“You can’t put a price on a human life.”
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Sure you can. It’s done every day. I despise government involvement in health care but it is necessary to put a price on human life. Just for one example if all cars were built with governors that would prevent speeds of more than five miles per hour there would probably be no deaths from collisions. Obviously the price for that is too high. The price of eliminating death from airplane crashes would be the elimination of air travel. Obviously that price is too high. There really is no way to live WITHOUT putting a price on human life in one way or another. Many lives could be saved if we just all give up every shred of freedom. If nobody could ski nobody would run into a tree on a ski slope, if nobody could go boating or swimming nobody would die in boating accidents or drown while swimming or be attacked by a shark and killed while swimming. I could go on and on, do you want to pay that price?


43 posted on 08/10/2009 8:00:12 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: ctdonath2
Words mean things. Rationing means awarding a right to something by state edict. Price means each individual can decide for himself what a thing is worth and whether or not he wants to give up what it takes to secure it. They are not "both rationing". One is rationing and the other is free economic action under scarcity. Imprecision about essentials of our lives helps only immoral and impudent men.
44 posted on 08/10/2009 8:17:17 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC

“Rationing means awarding a right to something by state edict. Price means each individual can decide for himself what a thing is worth and whether or not he wants to give up what it takes to secure it.”

Mr JasonC is correct.


45 posted on 08/10/2009 8:51:57 PM PDT by Bhoy (DRILL NOW)
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To: cranked

No, Peter Singer — enough said. The worst of the worst — the people we would laugh at what kooks they are now running our country... that should scare the hell out of everyone.


46 posted on 08/10/2009 9:17:04 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FrdmLvr

Clearly written by a psychopath.


47 posted on 08/10/2009 9:18:41 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda arm.)
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To: RipSawyer

So why don’t you go some place else and continue to go on and on?

I made a very simple statement and I will stick by it.


48 posted on 08/11/2009 12:55:13 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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