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Do Clouds Come From Outer Space?
ScienceNOW Daily News ^ | 5 August 2009 | Phil Berardelli

Posted on 08/08/2009 8:43:34 AM PDT by neverdem

Enlarge ImagePicture of solar storm

Cloud killer? Research suggests that solar storms interfere with cloud formation on Earth.

Credit: ESA/NASA

Most of Earth's clouds get their start in deep space. That's the surprising conclusion from a team of researchers who argue that interstellar cosmic rays collide with water molecules in our atmosphere to form overcast skies.

As common as clouds are on Earth, the processes that produce them are not well understood. Scientists think particles of dust or pollen can serve as nuclei for water droplets, which in turn gather by the trillions into clouds. That would help explain how clouds form over urban areas: Fine particles called aerosols are emitted from the exhaust pipes of millions of vehicles and work their way into the atmosphere, where they are thought to attract water molecules. But it doesn't explain how clouds formed in preindustrial society--or how they form today over vast stretches of rainforest and ocean.

That's where cosmic rays come in. The idea goes like this: High-speed cosmic ray particles--protons and neutrons of still-mysterious origins that travel at nearly the speed of light--collide with water molecules in the atmosphere, stripping away electrons from those molecules and converting them into electrically charged ions. The ions then begin attracting other water molecules, which eventually form clouds.

The theory seems to hold water in the lab. In 2006, physicist Henrik Svensmark of the Technical University of Denmark in Copenhagen and colleagues produced aerosols artificially in an atmospheric chamber by bombarding water molecules with a particle beam. "More ions resulted in more aerosols," Svensmark says.

In the new study, Svensmark's team wanted to see if the idea also worked in the real world. The researchers focused on a phenomenon known as a Forbush decrease. Here, a massive storm on the sun's surface flings a superhot fog of particles, called a coronal mass ejection, past Earth, temporarily shielding our planet from cosmic rays. If cosmic rays really do contribute to cloud formation, Svensmark and colleagues hypothesized, then cloud cover should dip during Forbush decreases.

And indeed that's what Svensmark's team found. When the researchers examined cloud data collected by weather satellites over the past 22 years and compared them with 26 Forbush decreases, they discovered that, for the five strongest events, the water-droplet content of Earth's clouds decreased by an average of 7%. It's like bare patches forming in a field, says Svensmark, whose team reports its findings this month in Geophysical Research Letters. The cloud patterns eventually returned to normal, he says, but they took weeks to do so. "We're now convinced that aerosols are affected by the Forbush decrease," Svensmark says.

Geoscientist Jón Egill Kristjánsson of the University of Oslo, Norway, calls the findings "astonishing." He and other researchers have searched for years for relationships between Forbush decreases and cloud formation and have found nothing, or they have found significant relationships "only in very remote locations." If the data can be confirmed by other observations, he says, "Svensmark's new results would greatly strengthen the case for a cosmic ray-cloud connection."

Svensmark argues that the findings suggest a link between cosmic rays and climate change. Because clouds bring rain and reflect light from the sun, fewer clouds would mean a warmer Earth. But Kristjánsson isn't willing to go that far. Monitoring instruments "over the last 50 years or so show either no trend or a slightly upward trend" in cosmic rays hitting Earth, he notes. According to Svensmark's theory, that would mean either no increase in cloud formation or a slight increase--neither of which would warm the world.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Testing
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; cloudformation; clouds; globalcooling; globalwarming; mineraldust; solarstorms; weather
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To: neverdem

It has been wetter than a ducks butt in Colorado and a lot of other places this year and the sun has no sunspots.

Nah, the sun couldn’t have anything to do with the Climate at all.


41 posted on 08/10/2009 8:02:14 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: neverdem

Did you say clowns?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pcOPT8Y64w


42 posted on 08/10/2009 8:12:06 AM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


43 posted on 08/10/2009 8:33:42 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: flash2368
Hopefully the Sun will finally drive the nail in the coffin of the global warming/climate change carbon trading insanity.

Nothing will stop ignorant politicians with the bit in their teeth, nothing!

Tax and spend money, money, money everywhere for the politicians in promoting this crap.

The entire continent could be buried in ice and these idiots will still be cap and taxin'.

44 posted on 08/10/2009 3:07:45 PM PDT by Ole Okie (American)
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To: BIGLOOK
Water droplets in space have been observed since 1961. It’s known as the Gagarin Effect.

Yuri started droplet formation? I thought it was Laika.

45 posted on 08/10/2009 3:14:17 PM PDT by Ole Okie (American)
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To: Ole Okie
Well it could have been Laika....but Yuri was hands free.

(Glad someone got it.)
46 posted on 08/10/2009 7:13:21 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: CanaGuy

A link you may find interesting:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/17jun_jetstream.htm

“At an American Astronomical Society press conference today in Boulder, Colorado, researchers announced that a jet stream deep inside the sun is migrating slower than usual through the star’s interior, giving rise to the current lack of sunspots.”


47 posted on 08/11/2009 11:06:53 AM PDT by Z80_Inside
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Seriously, I used to teach graduate education courses and went home one night appalled when my students expressed surprise that there are no sounds in outer space because it’s a vacuum out there.

Partially right. Grins:

Astronomers have detected the deepest note ever generated in the cosmos, a B-flat flying through space like a ripple on an invisible pond. No human will actually hear the note, because it is 57 octaves below the keys in the middle of a piano.

48 posted on 08/11/2009 11:25:36 AM PDT by Z80_Inside
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To: neverdem

Our cities produce their own clouds as well.


49 posted on 08/11/2009 11:27:14 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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