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I don’t. The night all the crap was flying that Irish guy from Belfast tried to tell us that Kenyan bc was not right...the guys name was Thon Brackton ( or something like that), he was BORN in exactly the same area of Kenya. He said the monetary denominations were not right (something about the lower case p for pence) , the region names —and then he put some Flicker photos up of his Kenyan bc...did not look ANYTHING like the forgery. I was frustrated becauser FR removed his posts because he had just signed up!! I don’t see what harm would have been in allowing him to give us more information. His postings, which were full of lots of verifiable detail, convinced me that this thing was a fraud, but people did want to listen. And FR blew him away.

I raised similar objections, and I was born Kenyan and spent a good 19 years there since birth until I moved to the US (I recently went back after getting hired by an offshore emerging markets Fund that invests in emerging/frontier markets). The whole BC-Kenya thing was not kosher, and I raised my points ...they were shot down, and the posts removed (idiotic ...shoot down something, but if it is simply factual let it be. I had even gone to the National Archives in Nairobi to get something for another issue, and when I couldn't reported I couldn't, thus I have been very fair. But my posts on the BC issue disappeared).

Anyways, the story finally broke with the Kenyan media, and the whole thing has become a major joke. The Daily Nation (Kenya's leading newspaper) even reported on the issue on Thursday 6th August 2009 (yesterday as of this posting) on page 3 (the entire page, apart from ads), saying that it differs from birth certificates from the time, and even put a copy of the Orly document with an ACTUAL KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the period next to it ....NOT EVEN CLOSE! The Website for the Nation newspaper is www.nation.co.ke (I could post the thread, but if FReepers will simply yank it ya'll can go and check it out for yourselves).

Then I saw SwordMaker, a FReeper who ahs been here for some time (particularly on techie related posts, particularly pertaining to Apple and computers), CLEARLY state that he was responsible for the 'two' birth certificates, when he tried to convert the pic to a more accessible JPEG that got lossy, and due to that EF became KF, and the numbers changed. He stated how it happened, and it is something ANYONE can replicate. Yet no one is hearing it. People are too sold out on the Kenyan birth certificate thing, and to be honest I agree with Coulter when she says it is nutty.

Obama is an abomination, and there are so many ways to bring him down that make sense and are legal. Will it be easy ...no, but hard has never stopped people before. As for the certificate, the pressure should be on HIM to prove he is a natural born American ....for HIM to show clear irrefutable evidence that he is eligible to sit on the highest seat in the land. On OBAMA. The pressure should come from us, and it should be strong and consistent.

But when people BLINDLY jump onto what some lawyer in california is saying, based on an IMAGE that she was sent by SOMEONE (?????), and she is trying to prove that the image is accurate ....then we are missing the prize. We need to test and see if it is real, and even if it is not real it doesn't mean that Obama is clear and free. After all, the goal is to make OBAMA PROVE he is American, not to defend Orly (including those who were calling coulter names) as if Orly's truth is the gospel. It is not ....better people have been fooled.

Are the birthers onto something? Maybe ...but even if wrong, Obama needs to prove he is eligible. That is fact.

What if he is eligible (hmmm ...there are true questions about his natural born status that may be very hard for him to clarify, but let's assume he does) ....well, he is still making moves that are, at the very least, border line unconstitutional. He is a person with so many targets in terms of legislation and what-not.

Yet, you see people turning a Kenyan BC that Kenyans born at the time laugh know is not accurate, into something approaching Holy Gospel that is not to be questioned. I am certain the first thing people will do upon reading my post is check when I joined (years ago), and upon that disappointment check my old posts to see if I've said something 'off' (you'll be disappointed again). Trolls should be zotted, but just as important is the need to judge and weigh information we receive, and ensure that it is veritable. Furthermore, we need to ensure that we keep our eye on the prize, in this case ensuring that Mr Obama does not ruin a nation that for a long time has been a bright light shining on a hill, and to do so in a legal constitutionally-valid manner that is above reproach.

Obama is an empty suit who just happens to be a good orator, and as someone once said it is easier to rant against trains being on time than to make trains run on time (or something to that effect). Already he is being shown to be empty. Now is the time to put legal and constitutional pressure on him, rather than blindly support crack-pot theories like some mindless libs (there is nothing wrong being excited about something like the Kenyan BC, but evaluate it, compare it with available BCs, ask how Orly got it and who sent it, and take everything - inluding my post - with a HUGE grain of salt ...rather than just acting as if anyone who says it may be off is some ranting liberal, or any of the names people called Coulter. Admission: I am not a big fan of Ann myself, but the circular firing squads are just ridiculous)

In the Bible it even says one should judge spirits. Anyways, that's all I have to say.