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A possibly real doc.... with a price in Australian (not East African) currency on it. Sure. Whatever you say.

I've been called a RINO, an Obama supporter, and other things for saying that the "Kenyan" document is an obvious forgery just because it's as bogus as a "US" dollar bill saying "One Peso" on it. That obvious.

People who still believe because they really, really, reeally want to believe are just like Dan Rather.

It's worse when publications quoted as the ABSOLUTE TRUTH by many here lie, blatantly and unashamedly, just like the worst of their political opponents. Here, I'll quote from WND August 2nd:

WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

And here is the "identical" document they now have released:

We were not punked by an Obama-supporter. This was an own-goal by branches of Conservatism that never let reality get in the way of their cherished beliefs. And those branches really belong on the Left, not the Right, because that's what the "Reality Based" community does, all the time. They lie when it suits their prejudices.

But if you say that, you don't just run the risk, you definitely will be charged with being a "DU operative" or the like. People have been banned for less.

It's time the rational right took back the party, and let the Code Pinkers and the 9/11 Troofers and the Black Helicopter brigade and the Flat-Earthers and the Obama-is-the-AntiChristers find homes on the Left, which is where they belong. They'll be right at home with the Bush-is-the-Antichrist people.

I've been called a RINO, an Obama supporter, and other things for saying that the "Kenyan" document is an obvious forgery...

We were not punked by an Obama-supporter. This was an own-goal by branches of Conservatism that never let reality get in the way of their cherished beliefs. And those branches really belong on the Left, not the Right, because that's what the "Reality Based" community does, all the time. They lie when it suits their prejudices.

But if you say that, you don't just run the risk, you definitely will be charged with being a "DU operative" or the like.

I hear ya. I was basically accused of being "suspicious" because my join-up date was LESS THAN A YEAR AGO (oh my GAWD!) and was also publicly accused of "sounding like an obamabot," just because I wouldn't drink the Kool-Aid of someone who desperately wanted to believe the "Kenya certificate" was real.

And I never even stated, like you said you did, that "Kenyan certificate" was an "obvious forgery!" I simply expressed the reasons (all of them good, valid reasons) why I personally believed it was a fake.

Some people, even here (which I would like to think is better than DU) just don't give a s*** about truth or reality if it gets in the way of what they WANT to believe. And they won't hesitate (even people who call themselves "Christians") to turn on and devour their FELLOW CONSERVATIVES just because of a disagreement about something that doesn't even have to do with fundamental conservative beliefs. Something like whether a birth certificate is or is not a forgery, or whether there is or is not a real threat from the H1N1 flu virus. There are unfortunately people here who will eat you alive if you don't toe their party line, even on stuff like that.

And in the end, they may be proven wrong, and you may be proven right, but meanwhile you've been spat upon by someone you *thought* ought to be on the same side as you.

As you might guess, this wasn't the first time I've gotten in trouble for getting between someone and his or her agenda.

And the thing that gets me is, like you said, that attitude, which includes a disregard for the truth, is one I would expect from the left, not here.

By the way, you pretty much NEVER get an apology from these kinds of people, even after you’re proven correct and they’re proven wrong. They just slither away into the woodwork for a while, until the next opportunity comes along to put a fellow conservative “in their place.”

>"A possibly real doc.... with a price in Australian (not East African) currency on it"

My monitor might not be as high def as yours. Where on the doc are you talkin bout an Aussie currency?

Did you even read the WND article you linked?

It's time the rational right took back the party, and let the Code Pinkers and the 9/11 Troofers and the Black Helicopter brigade and the Flat-Earthers and the Obama-is-the-AntiChristers find homes on the Left, which is where they belong. They'll be right at home with the Bush-is-the-Antichrist people.

Oh yeah Thank You Satan.

No no no there's nothing going on. It's all just a big delusion. Go back to sleep sheep.