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‘Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless’ [pictures supposedly from forger of Kenya BC]
Washington Independent ^ | 8/6/09 | Dave Weigel

Posted on 08/06/2009 11:53:16 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com

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To: Las Vegas Ron

I don’t think the KF Lavender argument is valid. Orly Taitz herself publicly asked for data on an EF Lavender. She would have access to the original document/photo/whatever.

And she may have asked for that data before the doc was released and therefore before it could have been tainted. But I don’t know if that’s the case.


281 posted on 08/06/2009 3:36:44 PM PDT by HelenaGrace
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To: cynwoody

Can you be trusted?lol


282 posted on 08/06/2009 3:37:56 PM PDT by Sophia777
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To: HelenaGrace
But I don’t know if that’s the case.

Thanks, I know, it's hard to keep on top of it all

283 posted on 08/06/2009 3:38:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Americans, just reading the bills and doing the jobs their representatives won't do)
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To: BP2

The PACER version has a fold going through the word “hospital” in the upper right part of the page that I would call an “outie”. In the crumpled picture, the same fold is an “innie”

Technical talk, you know...


284 posted on 08/06/2009 3:40:01 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: cynwoody
Photoshop uses layers only during the image editing process.

Not exactly true, you can by mistake or design save a layered image intact for further processing of each individual layer. I do it regularly.

285 posted on 08/06/2009 3:40:34 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: InterceptPoint

Well said! I agree. Still here!


286 posted on 08/06/2009 3:41:44 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

thank god I finally know ;o)


287 posted on 08/06/2009 3:41:57 PM PDT by Sophia777
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To: danamco

What if he is located outside the US?


288 posted on 08/06/2009 3:42:17 PM PDT by HelenaGrace
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To: Sophia777
The DU'ers have already said on the night this story "broke" that they'd flood the internet with forgeries to discredit Orly's. I have every reason the "punked" image is just another attempt at that.

If you look at both images of the Kenyan birth certificate (Orly's vs "punked"), there are inconsistency, particularly with the creases, smudge and staple hole.

Like I said before...

The "punked" image proves nothing more than how easily Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" may be forged as well.

Just like this one for George Washington:


289 posted on 08/06/2009 3:42:33 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Scanian

“wasn’t he supposed to share some blockbuster story. . .”

LOL. This was it.


290 posted on 08/06/2009 3:42:33 PM PDT by Genoa
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

There is still some overlooked evidence that will be important — whether this is a forgery or not.

Late on Aug 2, when this was all new, someone started an account on Wikimedia Commons by the name of User:Sygs99. This User:Sygs99 then uploaded an image called photocopy.jpg. An IP account based in Zoetermeer, Netherlands then tried to insert this same image into the appropriate English wikipedia article, though it didn’t last long there. The image was still visible on Commons until the 4th., when it was deleted by an admin there.

As far as I can tell, nobody else but me even looked at this image. It is a completely different document to the “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” - this one is titled “Birth Certificate” - although all the info on it is the same as on the “Certified Copy...”, including the page number ref, and even Mr. Oduya’s name as registrar. At the bottom it says “Price: Ten Shillings”.

Now unfortunately I didn’t get this image on my hd (I have looked in cache and can’t get it from Firefox)... There seems to be no copy of it available anywhere on the net at the moment.

The only people who can see this other document now would be the uploader, or anyone with an admin level account on Wikimedia Commons can see it.

Is there someone who knows how to get a friendly admin on commons to take a look?

If genuine, it would be corroborating evidence. If a forgery, it would be evidence as to who’s behind this.


291 posted on 08/06/2009 3:43:23 PM PDT by Milesc
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To: jaxon72

If you are referring to Dr. Taitz, you’re wrong. She didn’t “pass one off” to a court, she asked for authentication.

Pretty glib for a n00b, aren’t you?


292 posted on 08/06/2009 3:44:31 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: cynwoody; lonewacko_dot_com
Your assessment on the "forgery" alleged on the Bomford BC. I would agree.

Knowing nothing of forensics, but having extensive experience of family history and certificates, I took the usual route.

First established fact is that David Jeffrey Bomford exists and lives in Southern Australia. He is middle-aged. Next he has Alaric Robert Hubert Bomford as a father. His mother (now deceased) was Doreen Betty Bomford (formerly Loxton. She is 31 years at his birth in 1959.

The records at her interment in 2002, state her husband is "Al" Bomford and among her children is David. These are records held at Houghton cementery, in Australia.

My reasoning (sans forensics) is this. Since we have a live David Jeffrey Bomford of Australia; at his birth, just what would the registrar have entered- other than the certificate we have seen?

293 posted on 08/06/2009 3:45:26 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Red Steel
No, I simply understand that facts are what they are and not always what we want them to be.
294 posted on 08/06/2009 3:45:45 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
So, we never accepted it as proof of anything. We questioned it and everything about it in our ongoing search for the truth. we had nothing to compare it with. The fact that there was enormous interest in whether it was real or fake only emphasises that a lot of people want to know more.

The Aussie fake was discounted in a short time.

295 posted on 08/06/2009 3:45:46 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("Wolverines!!!!)
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To: InterceptPoint

>>> I for one had a great time reading and posting to the various threads. It’s fun watching the FR Investigative Engine get revved up and really cranking.

yeah... Orly should have posted that pic here before making a fool out of herself. I still can’t believe she filed a motion like that with only a photo to go on. THAT part IS embarrassing.

Someone should tell her to try vetting stuff here next time if they havn’t already.


296 posted on 08/06/2009 3:46:11 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Fraud = 30 years
297 posted on 08/06/2009 3:46:58 PM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: BP2

If you look at both images of the Kenyan birth certificate (Orly’s vs “punked”), there are inconsistency, particularly with the creases, smudge and staple hole.

I agree,


298 posted on 08/06/2009 3:49:05 PM PDT by Sophia777
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To: cycle of discernment

He and his pal got zotted because they were trolls, just as you are a troll.

In fact, you may be one or both of them. People aren’t zotted here without merit.


299 posted on 08/06/2009 3:49:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: mojitojoe
TROLL alert

The troll is a member of the Punk site. He made the identical post here at 19 as he did there at 3. I hit abuse, but there was no response. At the punkin site fearlessblogging:

Posted on August 06, 2009 at 08:35 AM (PDT) ( about 7 hours ago )

On this thread:

19 posted on August 6, 2009 3:08:18 PM EDT by jaxon72
300 posted on 08/06/2009 3:49:35 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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