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To: Red Steel
Bomford AKA Bamford likely to be a scam artist.

I very much doubt it.

Look, I've been a Freeper here, for five years now. I'm an Australian citizen and I know what Australian birth certificates look like. The Bomford certificate looks exactly like an Australian birth certificate.

This is a certified copy of my own birth certificate from last year (with identifying details removed).

It shows the standard form of an Australian birth certificate. This one looks slightly different from the Bomford because with modern technology, they can print the whole thing from the records, with printed seal, etc, as well as more security features (background printing etc, than they used to when things were harder to copy) - I used to have certified photocopies (I can't find one right now - I think I may have shredded them last year when I got this new one because they were becoming very tattered - why I got a replacement) from the 1970s and 1980s, and they looked virtually identical to the Bomford certificate.

Calling him a fraud because he has a birth certificate that looks like a birth certificate in Australia should look is ridiculous.

46 posted on 08/04/2009 7:59:50 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

I think you should see how this thread unfolds sometimes things are not as they appear to be....


52 posted on 08/04/2009 8:04:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: naturalman1975

Do you have any mates in Adelaide?

A straightforward way to put this to rest is for someone in Adelaide to pop into the Births, Deaths and Marriages Registration Office and nicely ask one of the clerks if there really exists a book “44B” with a page “5733” in the birth records in the year 1959. That would not be giving out private information, and a clerk could and likely would easily check that out. That would settle the question.

The Kenyan birth certificate and the Bomford birth certificate cannot both be real, because the coincidence of the book (44B) and page number (5733) of the birth register places that outside the realm of reasonable possibility.


63 posted on 08/04/2009 8:10:37 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: naturalman1975
The jury is still out on Bamford being a scam artist. Go Here (The Right Side of Life website) scroll down to the bottom and you find:

"I’ve found lists of participants at 2 international conferences, one hosted by the UN, in which a Richard Bomford attended with a Richard Bamford email address, as someone working for the Aussie Governent, Regional Unit for the Environment, in the Australian Capital Territory (ACT).

Richard Bomford is listed as the domain holder for Bomford.net where this David Jeffrey Bomford Certification of Registration was found.

The problem is that Richard Bamford was just involved in a massive fraud case adjudicated in Australia on July 10th of this year. Bamford seems to go by the name Bomford.

Also GIM International lists Richard Bomford as a GIS expert. It is my understanding that GIS information experts have software to produce maps and edit images of such quality, that forging a BC would be child’s play.

So the Bomford could be the fake; as its provenance is in doubt."

Maybe the Austrailian bc's are similar to Kenya's - they were both British at one point so no surprise there. I don't know for sure which one is authentic and which one is forged, only a document analyst can figure that one out. But I do know Bamford or Bomford has been involved in fraud and that's enough for me to look with a skeptical eye and much suspicion on ANYTHING found on his website.

96 posted on 08/04/2009 8:38:45 PM PDT by conservativegramma (Palin has my vote: whoever the media hates I love)
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To: naturalman1975
Well, this is a 1992 version of the official Aussie BC extract...

And here is a 1959 version....

It would seem quite odd to me that a REAL 1964 version would look closer to the 2009 template than to the 1959 or 1992 versions.

105 posted on 08/04/2009 8:45:15 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: naturalman1975

Ok, you’re an Australian, excellent. Let’s assume you’re not a troll. I’m not saying you are, not looking how long you’ve been here, etc.

Now, where on your birth certificate does it say what book and what page? In both the aussie and the kenyan docs, it was Book 44B Page 5573. That impossible coincidence, along with Lavender and Miller, was what made it mathematically impossible for both the aussie and the kenyan docs to be genuine.

I do not see any reference to book or page on your birth certificate. Can you find a legitimate Australian birth doc which makes reference to a book and page?


138 posted on 08/04/2009 9:06:15 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: naturalman1975
Calling him a fraud because he has a birth certificate that looks like a birth certificate in Australia should look is ridiculous.

I don't think you have read the key points against the bamford BC

1. The type (both from form and 'typed' in) are not distorted at all were the folds in the document are present. The creases that are evident to still be present should have distorted them - instead they are not.

2. The signature at the bottom right goes under the typwritten material - See post 38 for a detailed look.

Thus you are mistaken in associating fraud with its alledged origion. The fraud is evident from the two points listed above.

551 posted on 08/05/2009 1:56:11 PM PDT by Godzilla (TEA - Taxed Enough Already)
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