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To: truthfreedom
Can you find somewhere a south australian “certified copy of registration of birth”? Or any australian birth doc with a book and a page on it?

When I say the Australian one looks more genuine, here's what I mean:

1) Use a graphics program to expand both of them to high resolution. The Australian one, around the letters, looks like a photograph of a lettered document. The Kenyan one has heavy pixellation around the letters, and looks like the text was selected from some other document and dropped onto its background. If you examine them both in this way, you will see that the Kenyan one looks very fake.

2) Examine the seal of both documents.

a) You can actually READ THE WORDS on the seal of the Australian one. It says, "PRINCIPAL REGISTRAR'S OFFICE * SOUTH AUSTRALIA."

b) Blow it up as large as you like and examine the pixels closely. It shows NO sign whatsoever of being fake or having been added to the image. The ground between the embossed-paper image and the paper itself is as smooth as the rest of the document. There is NO indication of its being fake or its having been added.

c) Now contrast that with the Kenyan "seal." Try to read the Kenyan one. READ it? Hell, you can't even tell it's a SEAL. It's a totally blurry image that might just as well have been a coin that someone pressed into the paper. COMPLETELY different.

3) The Australian certificate bears information about the printer at the bottom. The Kenyan one does not. Yes, a small point, but EXTREMELY telling, for the following reasons:

a) It's definitely not the kind of thing one would simply add if one were starting from the Kenyan certificate and making a forged copy.

b) Examined closely, at say 1000% to 1500% magnification (which is how I examined the rest of these documents), like the rest of the Australian certificate, it shows ABSOLUTELY NO SIGN OF BEING ADDED IN. Completely UNLIKE the Kenyan certificate.

If this is a forgery, it looks to be a hell of a good one, and if the Kenyan one is genuine, it looks to be a hell of a bad one!

c) A quick Google search affirms that the printer listed is a REAL AND LEGITIMATE printer in Adelaide. We have no less than 1,200 Google references to the printer.

And 700 of those affirm that the named printer is an official printer for the government.

No, gentlemen, I'm afraid you've been PWNED. And the PWNer who did it to you is probably sitting in front of his computer right now, laughing his butt off.

348 posted on 08/05/2009 12:54:23 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield

Wow there buddy, that’s a lot of words, and yet you didn’t answer my questions at all. It was almost as if you can’t even read.

Here are the 2 points.

1) They don’t seem to care about books and pages.
Let me explain this to you yet again.

Both forms have the word Book and then a blank space then a comma, then the word Page and then a blank space. In both docs, the blank space after Page is filled in with 44B and the blank space after Book is filled in with 5733.

Here’s the point, and I hope you and others get it. I HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE THAT SOUTH AUSTRALIA USED A SYSTEM OF BOOKS AND PAGES. If South Australia didn’t use a system of books and pages, then how can there be a form with a filled in space after Book and a filled in space after Page? Only if it’s 100% totally fake. Do you think that a real form would exist in South Australia with a space after Book if they don’t keep records that way? How do you suppose training would go? “Uh, boss, it says Book and theres a space, then Page and a space, what do Book and Page mean, and what do I fill in there?” “I have no idea, just put in 44B after Book and 5733 after Page” Seriously buddy, is that how you think it worked? Now, I’m not certain that they didn’t use books and pages as part of their system, but, again, we’ve seen plenty of birth certificates, and none contain a mention of a book or a page. The fact that we’ve seen those certs, and no mention of books and pages really tends to lead to the assumption that they didn’t use books and pages.

2) Very similar to point 1. I have seen no evidence that South Australia used documents that functioned similar to birth certificates that were entitled “CERTIFIED COPY OF REGISTRATION OF BIRTH”

I don’t care at all what you think “looks more genuine” We’re comparing pictures. If we were looking at paper, then we’ll talk about what looks more genuine.

YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY A TROLL.


356 posted on 08/05/2009 1:26:28 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: john in springfield

john in springfield
Since Oct 24, 2008

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john in springfield hasn't created an about page.

365 posted on 08/05/2009 2:03:20 AM PDT by Godebert
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