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What is the source of your definitions? If you just made them up yourself (and I haven't seen anything similar anywhere else), then you're just begging the question. You've created a definition that makes you right . . . but anyone else is logically able to create their own definition that makes them right. No one convinces the other.

I think Melas has the correct understanding. There are natural-born citizens and naturalized citizens. One obtains their citizenship by right of birth, either because their parents are citizens or because they were born 'in the US' (defined in various ways, as for McCain). The other obtains their citizenship through a naturalization process when the 'natural-born' conditions do not apply.

Since it is acknowledged that Obama's parents were not both US citizens, then his only claim to citizenship is that he was born in the United States. It's either true or not.

In fact, I think he was born in Hawaii. I just think that if there is even the slightest question about it, he should be required to demonstrate it unambiguously. Right now, there are any number of ways that his citizenship could have been faked.

The real issue is whether the burden of proof is on him to show that he is qualified for the office, or whether the burden of proof is on someone else to show that he is not. Since he is in power, there is no incentive for him to take on that burden of proof, particularly since he probably can't prove it unambiguously due to the standards of record-keeping in Hawaii at the time.

Definitions are gleaned from a voluminous amount of reading on the subject, but I am certainly not the final authority.

Native born citizen is not a legally defined citizenship as far as I can tell, but it is throwhn around by the afterbirthers like it is!

“Since it is acknowledged that Obama’s parents were not both US citizens, then his only claim to citizenship is that he was born in the United States. It’s either true or not.”

He’d still be a citizen if born in Hawaii, but not a natural born citizen (therefore unqualified). Had Stanley Ann not declared who the father was, it could not be proven that he was not a natural born citizen (born to two American parents) assuming they could not find a foreign father through DNA.

The whole point of the article is that he is not, and has never been a Natural Born Citizen of the united States, per the constitution.