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To: rudman

Can you expand? Are you saying Calhoun’s father was not a citizen of South Carolina at the time of his birth in South Carolina in 1782?

Do you also think John C Calhoun was not a citizen of South Carolina at the time of the adoption of the Constitution in 1787-9?

Are you aware that Calhoun’s father, Patrick Calhoun was first representative from Up Country to Commons House of Assembly, 1769-1772; member of First Provincial Congress, 1775; second, 1775-1776; General Assembly, 1776; and frequently after until his death, 1796?

Chester Curtis was born in 1860 and his father fought for the Union during the War Between the States — what country are you saying his father was a citizen of in 1860?


1,941 posted on 08/04/2009 1:22:23 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz
Can you expand.

Chester Curtis was born in 1860 and his father fought for the Union during the War Between the States — what country are you saying his father was a citizen of in 1860?

Fair Question: Here's your answer. He was born in Kansas prior to it becoming a state, on an indian reservation. At the time, the supreme court had ruled that indians were not citizens (check out Elk v. Wilkins).

Calhoun is more tenative surrounding the immigrant status of the father.

Arthur was elected as a vice president, and gained the presidency after garfields assasination. His father was naturalized in 1843 - Arthur was born in 1829.

All three were controversies in their times of varying levels.

All three instances were found by googling "Natural Born Citizen" and "Vice President".

Have a great evening.

1,990 posted on 08/04/2009 3:01:11 PM PDT by rudman
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