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To: Houghton M.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306755/posts?page=788#788

"I DID NOT say that the Times of London called Kenya a republic. "

Here is your exact quote.

"A newspaper article from the Times of London, Oct. 9, 1963, using the term Republic of Kenya.

The article did not use the term "Republic of Kenya" anywhere. You misrepresented what the article said.

You create the false impression that the leading newspapers of the day were habitually calling kenya the "Republic of kenya". Instead of characterizing the article accurately, you chose to mislead.

You could have accurately said the paper was quoting opposition leaders as saying they wanted to form a republic. (Which they didn't, they passed a constitution that kept the Queen of England as the head of state, and they didn't create a president).

When a newspaper account reports that Joe Blow said X, Y, and Z, it is Joe Blow who is saying it.

And I said so.


No you did NOT say so.

Look at your posting, you did not say anything like this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306755

If your message had this clarification it wouldn't have misled. But we can all see from the link that it didn't, and that you instead chose to mislead. Interesting strategy. When someone catches you carelessly handling and misrepresenting facts, make stuff up to claim you didn't?

Here's another grossly misleading statement in your post:

"They considered themselves a republic from the point at which they declared their full independence from England (while remaining in the Commonwealth)"

Who is "they"? You are conflating leadership of a pre-independence rebellion opposition with the entire country of Kenya!

Yes, some leaders of the rebellion wanted Kenya to become a republic straightaway on Dec 1963, but they lost the independence negotiations, they were outvoted. In other words, more leaders of Kenya did not want to be a republic than wanted to in the 1963 vote. The constitution that passed was not a Republic, they had the queen of england as the head of state! There was no president.

Today, there are some people in Australia who want Australia to become a Republic in the near future, throwing off conenctions to the queen. They might be successful. Can you say Australia considers itself a republic today because a group wants it to become one? NO! Can you say the country thinks of itself as one today? NO!
925 posted on 08/03/2009 11:51:35 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

please read 5231 before you write any more garbage.


932 posted on 08/03/2009 12:08:54 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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