Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Exactly. Jveritas is a patriot.
We don't know yet what wording Kenyan documents made during the interim were using. Worldnet is currently claiming to have other similar documents: WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.
I suggest holding off calling it a fake just on the basis of the phrase "Republic of Kenya" until we know what language other, authenticated documents were using. It may well be that this document can be invalidated quite easily just on that language --- but we don't know that yet. If Worldnet will post these other documents, we may be able to have quick clarification on this point.
At the moment there are over 70,000 views to this thread.
And as is always the case- it’s worth the time to read from the beginning because there are lots of buried nuggets!
If you are still using Adobe reader 8.1, I would advise upgrading to the latest version asap. There are known security holes in this version.
Thank you for educating me.
I remember visiting the Middlesex County deeds registry in Cambridge, MA back in the late eighties. It was a crowded place. About a quarter of the people seemed to have bag phones (remember those?).
You started at the Grantor / Grantee index, which was an already hefty set of volumes periodically updated with new computer printouts. You looked up whomever and wrote down the Book / Page reference on a piece of scrap paper (helpfully provided). Then you went to the stacks and pulled down the appropriate volume and turned to the page. As I recall, a book was heavy and thick and had 800 to a thousand pages. Then you carried the book over to a free copying machine and stuffed in some nickels.
But you are right. We shouldn't draw any conclusion about book thickness from page number. For all I know, they could have numbered the pages starting at 1, bound them into books of a convenient size, and then created an index mapping names to book and page numbers. So, there might be a document at Book 100A, page 11471.
“Im hoping for a nasty, brutish, slow death to hobble everything the Democrats do.”
Can’t argue with whatever most effectively slows the socialist juggernaut.
“If the Kenyan story is correct, then it means endless litigation because everything Obama has signed would be put into question.’
There have been legal theories on that point. It is possible a Dem-controlled Congress could ratify much of the contested legislation and a compliant Biden would sign off. Unfortunately for the nation, it could be a relatively quick process.
On the other hand, the Dem party may be so shaken, that middle-of-the-roaders out of fear would not participate in any prompt or wholesale ratification.
The latter leads to my view that O’s handlers will defer to Hillary’s handlers and O will be caused to resign before it blows and unnecessarily damages the Dem party.
That point will be about the time it appears there is a chance the USSC will rule v O. They will want to position O as a victim of the hard right wing loonies who have caused the nation great stress.
They just got out of church...
The idea of the Mombasa hosital was foating around over a year ago. Check the link for The Obama Timeline. It’s a long page so allow loading time.
Nobody says it was a Republic in 1961. But Kenya declared independence in 12/63 and was on the road to becoming a republic even if it was not “officially” one yet. The Kenyans were perhaps the most prideful and fractious of all the Crown Colonies in Africa (See: Mau Maus) and the Kenyans working in the various bureaucracies were doubtless from among the most patriotic and chauvinistic sements of society. Printing “Republic” on a document form reminds me of Alaska and Hawaii gaining statehood in the late ‘50’s. We all referred to them as states even though there was a one year lag time before they actually assumed legal statehood.
“Republic” was the de facto situation if not de jure. It doesn’t stretch my credulity at all. And WND claims to have seen similar documents and I am not prepared to call Joe Farah& co. liars.
How about you quit disparaging jveritas. He translated thousands of Iraqi documents for us during the Iraq War aftermath.
But the Republic was not declared until a year later.
***********************EXCERPT***************************
Independence:
The Christian name, also known as the given name or first name, does not refer to the surname, which is also known as the family name or the last name.
Wow...that’s amazing! I waded through most of the thread this morning and you are right..lots of buried nuggets of valuable information.
Anything that helps bring about the destruction of the democrat party is alright with me.
All of the candidates that the demorats run would fit better in a freak show then in American politics.
Some of those old Underwoods were practically indestructible. As a kid in 1959, I was gifted a 1895 model and it worked like a charm.
No reason why the Registrar couldn’t have used such an antique.
Yeah, but you're obviously just an O-bot troll..when did Axelrod call to give you your instructions? And, I suppose it's just a COINCIDENCE that Obama came to speak in GERMANY, huh?
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