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To: Danae

“LOL You don’t get that there is a difference between a long form and a short form. “

What you dont get is that there is only one form, the COLB, that you get when you request certification of birth information. That difference and claims to ‘long form’ is based on a confusion. there is an original birth certificate on file, but its not ‘long form’:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/28/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/

“When we spoke to a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health, she said too much was being made of the difference between the so-called “long” and “short” forms.

“They’re just words,” said spokeswoman Janice Okubo. “That (what was posted on the Internet) is considered a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii.”

“There’s only one form of birth certificate,” she said, and it’s been the same since the 1980s. Birth certificates evolve over the decades, she said, and there are no doubt differences between the way birth certificates looked when Obama was born and now.

“When you request a birth certificate, the one you get looks exactly like the one posted on his site,” she said. “That’s the birth certificate.”

As for the theory that Obama’s original birth certificate might show he was foreign-born, Okubo said the “Certification of Live Birth” would say so. Obama’s does not. Again, it says he was born in Honolulu.”


884 posted on 07/31/2009 7:58:57 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG

LOL

I have my short form COLB and I can order my Long form COLB as well. I have a photo copy of it though. I have posted both.

There are two forms right there.

Any Amendments are separate forms. Adoption papers are also separate forms. Court orders are separate forms. All of those could be included with Vital Statistics in regards to getting a Copy of a COLB. The COLB’s do not indicate how many forms are in a file. They do not indicate if there are any amendments.

Okubo has made several different statements that directly contradict each other.

She is saying that his COLB states he was born in Honolulu. She CAN NOT BY LAW state what his long form says. Or what any Amendments say.

Magic 8-ball says: Try again.


886 posted on 07/31/2009 8:05:20 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: WOSG; Danae
What you dont get is that there is only one form, the COLB, that you get when you request certification of birth information. That difference and claims to ‘long form’ is based on a confusion. there is an original birth certificate on file, but its not ‘long form’:

Look, I don't want to get into the argument. I've steadfastly avoided the entire Obama birth certificate argument.

But, in response to your claim above, why is it that, when I request a copy of my original birth certificate from Oklahoma (for a passport application, e.g.), I get a photostatic copy of a form that is filled with typewritten or longhand entries? And when I request a certificate of live birth, I get a computer-generated copy that resembles Obama's COLB from Hawaii?

Rather obviously, they are two different things.

889 posted on 07/31/2009 8:17:01 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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