[presently no screen name]

Obama lies. He has to, being a politician. That doesn’t mean he’s lying about being born in Hawaii

So you pick and choose what's a lie and what isn't. That will work at being 'fair' if that's what you are after - being fair. I'll give him two points here and take one point from there.... nice PC game you play.

[Tublecane]

“So you pick and choose what’s a lie and what isn’t.”

I have to. It’s unpracticable to write everything off as a lie. And it’s not as if I have no basis to go on once I seperate myself from absolute disbelief. Hard evidence, for instance, of which there is none for a Kenyan birth and a few for Hawaiian birth.