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To: upsdriver

I simply fail to understand the logic of people who say things like “Give it up! You’re wrong” when, in fact, they know just as little about Obama’s origins as WE do.

As far as I’m concerned, the fact that he’s refusing to make the records public is reason enough to be highly suspicious of his origins. And even if he WAS born in Hawaii, we have the right to know that our President has the legal right to BE our President.

If I went for a job driving a truck, or teaching public school, I’d have to prove that I had a truck driver’s license, or certification to teach in my chosen grade. Why shouldn’t Obama have to prove that HE has the qualifications for HIS job? After all, he works for US (though obviously he feels it’s the other way around).


39 posted on 07/30/2009 8:53:16 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Pravious

Exactly! I am not concerned about his status as much as I only want him to play by the same rules required of the rest of us. Do we get to decide what info we are willing to disclose in our daily dealings? Like buying a house? Getting a passport? Enrolling in school? No, we don’t! Neither should Obama!


104 posted on 07/30/2009 9:14:33 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: Pravious
I simply fail to understand the logic of people who say things like “Give it up! You’re wrong” when ...

Well, actually you do understand because it is something all of us encountered directly or indirectly when about six or seven. That's when kids learn that there is no Santa Claus.

Remember? Remember how you HATED the kid from third grade, or the maybe a smart aleck fellow second grader who insisted he or she knew the REAL TRUTH? Fighting words!

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Many of the people normally on our side who have come out so vociferously against us lowly birthers are those who very much need the quite natural human comfort of knowing that everything works right, or is taken care of -- an adult version of Santa Claus as a society and culture and elite governing cohort who never go too wrong, and who are usually right, or at least not too far off.

We Birthers, are out in the wild -- the premise(s) we postulate -- beyond the level of things our disturbed fellows, now come against us find at all tolerable to consider.

Thirty-nine social security numbers? Birth in Kenya? A total fabrication of personal history? -- Such possibilities are the mark of miami street hustlers, russian mobsters and nigerian mail scammers, never a man in the OVAL OFFICE.

The movie "Eyes Wide Shut" covered the psychology a bit. In actual human experience the "break" can be far darker -- far steeper. Sometimes we simply cannot be sane and know and deal with things that actually have happened, or are happening.

To accept any of those things about the President, or a man in serious contention for President of the United States is simply impossible for many.

Just as it is impossible to convince a five year old that there is no Santa Claus.

240 posted on 07/30/2009 10:10:21 PM PDT by bvw
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