Danae, thanks for posting the receipts from Hawaii at #211 for all to see. So now will Freepers tend to believe that the Certification of Live Birth you posted at #71 on this thread is real (although you remembered incorrectly the date that you originally received it), and not a forgery as Polarik said in the accusation at the following link?
I looked at the pictures and explanation posted by Polarik at #135 there, but they did not convince me that your document is a forgery as claimed.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302120/posts?page=1#135
1. I think that the date stamp is something created by the transfer of ink from the surface of a stamper onto the paper. I would not expect all stamped impressions to have exactly the same shape due to variations in pressure, and the amount and the consistency or viscosity of ink on the stamper.
2. The folds of the document appear to be roughly formed as if it were unfolded and refolded numerous times. There could be more than one jaggedly shaped fold in the same area if it were used often and refolded. I wouldn’t expect the fold to appear identical on both sides of the paper, that is, on the inside and the outside of the fold. Perhaps, if folded only once and then creased with something hard like a metal ruler it would appear aligned on the front and back views.
3. In the animation of the seal the ‘green’ side looks washed out by bright light just above the fold as compared to the ‘red’ side. I think a metal seal maker would cause the paper to be raised on one side and indented on the other side of the paper, so I would not expect both sides of the seal impression to appear identical especially in the different light and contrast in this picture. I don’t perceive a forgery in the appearance of the fold that intersects the seal.
But that is just what I think. I follow Free Republic as often as I can, but I admit that I’ve probably not read all of Polarik’s research nor understood all of it that I have read.
Your documents may help with this mystery. I don’t recall other instances of being able to compare one person’s short form Certification with their long form Certificate (at #71 and #109 on this thread). One other thing is that I noticed there may be a typographical error for your birth date on the March 2, 2007 receipt at #211 on this thread.
Best thoughts to all good Freepers who may read this reply :)
Since the theme of the lesson seems to be ‘Hawaiian officials are incompetent’, checking back, the August 7, 1969 date is the same for the short form and the long form, so the August 8, 1969 must be ‘clerical error’.
Thanks deks!
I am still waiting for an apology from Polarik. You and Mesta are correct, Polarik’s behavior was totally inappropriate, and his attack of me unjustified. Not to mention that though I made a mistake on the date, It is still a real COLB and Polarik was wrong. 100%. He might have gotten a few things right in his life, but this isn’t one of them.
Still waiting for my apology Ron. I was big enough to admit I was wrong. Are you?