[Darkwolf377]

...there is a fair amount of crossover between those fixated on Obama’s birth certificate and the 9/11 “truthers” — lawyer Phil Berg, for instance, is a player in both worlds.

There is nothing that President Obama’s coterie would enjoy more than to see the responsible Right become a mirror image of the loopy Left circa 2003.

The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

[El Gato]

There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

The document itself does not purport to be a "birth certificate", but rather a "Cerfification of Live Birth". It contains some, but not all of the information from the "Certificate of Live Birth", which *is* the birth certificate. The Certification, if a legitimate one, contains the information necessary to determine if one is a citizen at birth, but not a natural born citizen.

The next question is, why would anyone fake a CoLB, if a legitimate one would have shown the same information, and that information supports being a Natural Born Citizen.

[bareford101]

I have never thought it was a laughing matter to vet a person who holds the highest office in the land. (quote from Orly’s Facebook friend)