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To: garjog
When a missionary has a kid overseas, the kid is a natural born American because his or her mother is a American citizen.

Yes, basiclly. But it could just as well have been the father.

O’s mom was an American. So, even if he was born in Africa, he is still a natural born American (born of an American citizen). That is the legal definition according to my lawyer (wife).

Well, your wife needs to take another gander at the law, 8 USC section 1401, making note of the 1986 change in residency requirements for the US parent. If he was not born in the US, his mother was too young to pass citizenship on to him. But even in the more general case where the child would be a citizen, that would not be natural born citizenship. It would be the result of a law passed by Congress, which was only granted the power to establish a uniform rule of naturalization, not to redefine "natural born citizen". Since it was via an act of Congress, it must be a form of naturalized citizenship.

589 posted on 07/28/2009 8:42:04 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Thanks for giving me the citation for the US law.

“was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years”

Wasn’t his mother 17 at his birth? If she was 15 and a half then it would apply, but not 17 since she was living in the US for more than than five years.

Even if she was in Kenya, she had lived in the US for more than five years, two after age 14.

(Not that I am a O supporter or anything. It is just that this stuff sounds crazy and Anne Coulter and Michael Medved both say this is a goose chase.)


592 posted on 07/28/2009 9:07:08 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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