Posted on 07/27/2009 7:03:39 PM PDT by pissant
No. More like: "Show me the proof you political hack. We simply don't believe you because you have an agenda and you are under duress at the moment."
That sort of thing...
Anyone with an ounce of common sense would just produce the documents and shut this whole thing down. What is Obama hiding and why? or, better yet... if the CIC doesn't have to play by the rules, neither do we....
What an erudite statement.
“Yeah, I know a lot of parents who get the address wrong on their children’s birth certificate and announcements and then when asked about it they can’t explain the error of forget about it. How much guilty behavior would this guy have to engage in before you cut him loose?”
My aunts name was wrong on her birth certificate. She didnt know for decades. Your point is what?
“When you and Obama get the hospital and first residence correct, would you let me know. We are holding up our trip to Honolulu so we can visit those sites.”
No need to wait, the walking tour awaits:
http://www.kitv.com/news/18026978/detail.html
“There is also a stop at the hospital where Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Christensen’s two children were born there, too.”
I included you in my “sniff test” cause I was smelling lefty stench and you aren’t a fan of the poster either. :-)
Your pointing to debunked FactCheck.org an Ayres/Obama group really harms your credibility. after that one responding to the balance of your post is really a waste of time.
Sorry but Dr. Fukino’s statement is not proof of anything. Nice try.
“If this thing was just a silly right wing eruption, they wouldn’t be trotting out some local political hack to spew carefully crafted words in an attempt to distract attention from the issue.”
Sure they would. The Left loves this stuff.
Other parts on the right know its a silly right wing eruption, a false conspiracy theory based on a heap of nothing. Yes, I would *like* for Obama to share stuff like his college records, but that lack of disclosure doesnt make him born in Kenya.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTRjMTFhMzQxYmEzNjA2YWIwOTU4YWVjNzRmODE2NTI=
Your calling something ‘ debunked ‘ when its not really harms your credibility.
“after that one responding to the balance of your post is really a waste of time.”
Ignore facts and evidence and assuming your conclusions you can end up believing anything.
If Barry’s actual biological father is a fellow high school student Stanley Ann went to school with in Washington State ... get my drift?
Ok, there, now you know the dirty little secret!
Factcheck.org has been discredited. For you to use it shows you do not know what you are talking about or you may have an agenda. It is not a legitimate source.
“If Dr Fukino violated state law twice to disclose birth information, did she not just damage any credibility she might have had concerning this issue?”
Hardly. Birthers have loudly demanded ANSWERS to their questions. She has answered them the best she could.
Holding it against her is hypocritical. It’s not clear she broke the law in asserting this public fact about a public figure anyway. She didnt release private records in her statement.
Dismissing this official validation of Obama’s birth record is an irrational attempt to hold on to a false belief by rejecting any data or facts that refute it. You can believe the earth is flat with that mindset.
As NR put it:
“The hallmark of a conspiracy theory is that a lack of evidence for the theory is taken as yet more evidence for the theory. Indeed, the maddening thing about dealing with conspiracy hobbyists of this or any sort is the ever-shifting nature of their argument and their alleged evidence: Never mind the birth certificate, his step-grandmother said he was born in Kenya! (No, she didn’t.)”
Where was Obama born? What’s been discredited is the bogus claims that he wasnt born in Hawaii.
Nothing in the COLB has been shown to be wrong or false. Claims and assertions doubting it have not panned out. They are wrong. It’s a real and valid COLB.
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg
Attacking the source is a logical fallacy known as “ad hominem”. If they are wrong (and sometimes they are), argue the facts not the person.
LOL. Have you got the Obama family to all give the same answer?
“WOSG,,, the birth thing is the red herring.”
I agree. He was born in Honolulu.
“Obama is likely the son of a rather famous American communist.”
Barack Obama Sr was a Kenyan Socialist. No other father would lead to a more radical upbringing.
” If that gets out, the whole Africa thing is bullsh*t”
... It sort of always was. Obama met his father *once* and yet his whole book “Dreams of My Father” was about finding out who his Dad was. Baloney, he was raised more by Grandparents but he stepped over them and built up his absent drunken bigamist Dad.
“Obama is shown to be the fraud and thug that he is.”
This is better shown by focussing on the wrong he does now than where he was born and under what circumstances.
Claims that Obama wasnt born in Hawaii are now an official dead-end.
Asserting that their might be something else in there is just wish-fulfillment thinking. Not productive.
I get it, it would be an interesting twist. Proving it would probably be next to impossible.
“The law applies to Okubu so the same should be applied to Fukino. Unless you can prove Fukino is above Hawaiian law.”
This explains the reticence of the state of Hawaii despite birthers clamoring for ‘proof’. So you are going to charge someone with violating the law for the crime of answering questions from birthers?
“Show me the proof you political hack.”
And if/when she does will you call her a criminal for breaking privacy laws?
It seems a very unfair catch-22 to put a public official into.
Found this from one of your other comical posts. I thought I might like to share it:
“Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Monday she has seen the original birth records that verify Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a “natural-born American citizen.”
“Case closed.”
Case closed? LOL! Yeah sure. Sounds like you are easily fooled by people.
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