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What Happened to Our Postracial President? Lose, Lose When You Talk About Race [Victor Davis Hanson]
NRO + Pajamas Media ^ | July 27, 2009 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/27/2009 6:10:59 AM PDT by Tolik

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To: maica

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Henry-Gates-has-50-Per-Cent-Irish-Roots—51568452.html

fyi:

Henry Louis Gates Jr., the black professor at the center of the racial story involving his arrest outside his Harvard house, has spoken proudly of his Irish roots.

Bizarrely, he and the Cambridge, MA, officer who arrested him, James Crowley, both trace their ancestry back to the legendary Niall of the Nine Hostages, a famous Irish chieftain.

Henry Louis Gates Jr. and James Crowley

In a PBS series on African-American ancestry that he hosted in 2008, Gates discovered his Irish roots when he found he was descended from an Irish immigrant and a slave girl.

He went to Trinity College in Dublin to have his DNA analyzed. There he found that he shared 10 of the 11 DNA matches with offspring of Niall of the Nine Hostages, the 4th century warlord who created one of the dominant strains of Irish genealogy because he had so many offspring.

Ironically, James Crowley, whose name in Gaelic means “hardy warrior,” is also descended from the same line as Gates, having very close links to Niall of the Nine Hostages.


41 posted on 07/29/2009 10:03:05 AM PDT by GOPJ
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More and more African-Americans are becoming involved in tracing their ancestry, as more and more record databases become available. I hope this will help our country to become more cohesive as we discover how ‘alike’ we are - genetically-speaking, (not in the disparate ways of treatment of past generations).

Just as I felt a connection to the black American tourists in Europe, I feel a bond to black genealogy researchers when I meet them in libraries. We have to do more to acknowledge our ‘alikeness’ rather than do what Prof Gates did last week.


42 posted on 07/29/2009 11:03:04 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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Prof Gates was getting his Irish up...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Get%20someone%27s%20Irish%20up

1. Get someone's Irish up

Being severely pissed off. Please don't get my Irish up.

2. Get someone's Irish up

To cause them to go into a blinding, seething, often-homicidal rage. See also: Infuriate.

43 posted on 07/29/2009 11:27:32 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ

I guess along with Christians and white males in general it is still ok to ‘denigrate’ Irish people - to stereotype them as being irrational fighters!!! LOL!

PS: I am severely Irish!


44 posted on 07/29/2009 12:16:54 PM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: GOPJ

An oft-quoted description that gets the English in a crowd to smile smugly. (That is until the last line):

The British Isles are composed of four races of man

. . . the Scottish, who keep the sabbath—and everything else they can get their hands on.

. . . the Welsh, who pray on their knees—and on their neighbours.

. . . the Irish, who don’t know what they want, but are willing to fight for it anyway.

. . . and the English, who consider themselves a race of self-made men, thereby relieving the almighty of a terrible burden.


45 posted on 07/29/2009 12:23:42 PM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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One of life’s small’s pleasure is telling an Irishman that he has more in common with the English than any other group of people in Europe. Love to use that when I hear Irish AMERICANS saying that they have alot in common with Italians, Poles, etc.


46 posted on 07/29/2009 12:26:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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That would really stir up my father, for example!!


47 posted on 07/29/2009 1:56:12 PM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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Yep. Of course, there is now so much Irish blood in England thanks to centuries of migration, but that doesn’t seem to matter. Let’s not forget that England’s greatest songwriting team (Lennon/McCarthy) were both descended from 19th Century Irish immigrants.


48 posted on 07/29/2009 1:58:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: maica

LOL - you got me on three of seven - no “Welsh” in me... (that I know of...)


49 posted on 07/29/2009 3:30:05 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Note: this topic is from 7/27/2009. Thanks Tolik.

50 posted on 08/10/2013 6:29:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Tolik; Liz; sickoflibs
Two: almost everyone (minorities included) I talked with could recall one or two personal incidents of some criminal action committed by a minority male against their person or property. Call that profiling or stereotyping. I could attest at least four (other than the near yearly crash into my vineyard and fleeing driver and abandoned vehicle)...

It's true... I can do the same.

51 posted on 08/10/2013 7:54:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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