here's some cheese for your whine
Posted on 07/24/2009 2:32:51 PM PDT by ComeUpHigher
So, if Mormons are the most conservative faith community, and FR is a place where Mormons and Mormonism are constantly attacked, what does that make FR?
They were when I left the library, graduated. Though we had to insist that they be used only in the presence of a library staff member given the efforts to steal them earlier.
I forgot to ask about them when I last stopped through there.
I did find out that the conservative ALDERDICE COLLECTION was sent to Berkely—of all places.
Where was the Mountain Meadows massacre?
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Near Cedar City Utah...
I don’t know where that is.
The one I’m talking about was on or near the Colorado River.
I think the families that were massacred were running from the LDS folks they suspected would kill them—truly on orders from, I think, B Young—the top guy at the time, anyway. I guess they didn’t run fast enough.
Mormons arent attacked on FR...
FReeoers post the truth about the mormon doctrine...
and mormons try to burn down FRee Republic...
FR is more conservative than mormons..
FReepers
John D. Lee, who established Lee’s ferry on the colorado R. under the direction of the mormon church, was executed for his part in the mountain meadows massacre
Romney said that his relative died during an abortionon live TV to millions of viewers...
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a “brother-in- law, “sister” is not a Romney relative
The first time was when Romney was a young man in the 1960s and his brother-in-law’s sister - an engaged-to-be-married teen who became pregnant - died in a botched illegal abortion.
BY had several groups murdered...
Lt Gunnison and his party of surveyors were butually murdered...
That was all men though...
here's some cheese for your whine
The first time was when Romney was a young man in the 1960s and his brother-in-law’s sister - an engaged-to-be-married teen who became pregnant - died in a botched illegal abortion.
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Really ???
I believe the relationship was closer than that...
the relationship was close enough to effect Lenore Romney
and cause Mitt Romney to push abortions due to his mother’s feelings about the death...
Hmmmm.
This is something that I haven’t thought much about in more than 30 years . . . . nearly 40.
I never succeed in dredging very full memories up about the details.
Sorry.
Thanks.
I’ve been here over 10 years, don’t tell me the sky is yellow when I can see it is blue. If you haven’t seen it, you just haven’t been looking in the same places.
And I have no problem with honest intellectual enquiry, in fact I welcome it. Intellectually dishonest propaganda, mockery and open contempt against another faith dishonours any board that wallows in it however.
Well, I guess it is as long as one believes that the baby in question is not of God’s creation and that it was never granted by Him the unalienable right to Life and Liberty and that his God-given unalienable rights were never expected to be protected by the U.S. Constitution
Jim, mormon belief is quite different from that of Christians.
"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee" Premortal Existence
Latter-day Saints believe that every member of the human family is an eternal being. The Prophet Joseph Smith taught : "The spirit of man is not a created being; it existed from eternity, and will exist to eternity." While each person is eternal, he or she goes through "successive phases" of existence. Each of these phases is marked by a birth or change, including our spirit birth, our mortal birth, and our spiritual conversion. This series of births is not to be confused with reincarnation, a belief which the Church rejects.
Each birth is a milestone that marks achievement of a higher state of development than previously enjoyed. Eventually, if we are faithful to the plan of salvation, this series of births increases our "capacity to grow in grace, knowledge power and intelligence itself, until [we], gaining the fulness of all things, become like [our] Father, the Supreme Intelligence." However, if we are not faithful to the proscribed plan, then our progression is stopped and we never complete the intended journey or reach the final milestone. President Joseph F. Smith taught:
"What is damnation? It is being barred, or denied privileges of progression, because of failure to comply with law. All who fail to enter into the celestial kingdom are damned, or stopped in their progression, but they will enter into some other glory which they are entitled to receive."
Mankind began in the premortal world as spirit element which has always existed and is co-eternal with God. Our first birth occurred when our "self-existent spirit element [was] born as spirit children" to our Heavenly Parents who used "the ordained procreative process…" The First Presidency noted: "All men and women are in the similitude of the universal Father and Mother, and are literally the sons and daughters of Deity." Since "this birth constituted the beginning of the human ego as a conscious identity," it is a higher form of existence than that enjoyed previously as spirit element.
Mortal birth, our second birth, "is the event by which one's spirit body is temporarily joined with a mortal tabernacle begotten by earthly parents." Beings with physical bodies are in a higher state of development than beings without such bodies:
The "baby in question" (in the womb) actually is a "spirit body that is temporarily joined with a mortal tabernacle begotten by earthly parents.
well we all have cobweb covered memories LOL.
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