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To: SideoutFred
Either prove he isn’t from Hawaii or drop this. Looks ridiculous for conservatives.

I'm not what you would call a "rabid birther".....

.....But why is it rediculous to want Obama to reveal a truth he is hiding, citizen or not?

The law is the law. If he doesn't measure up, we have a right to know.

In truth, the burden of proof is on him, not the people asking questions.

30 posted on 07/22/2009 5:20:12 PM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: SteamShovel

Because you can’t win this thing, that’s why.

B.O. has already produced a document, yet the birthers say it isn’t good enough. If he were to produce another document, you would say the same thing. He can’t win in this arrangement so he’s better off doing absolutely nothing and forcing the birthers to prove him wrong.

He’s smart playing it the way he is. He’s the POTUS, he’s been sworn in, he was on every ballot, he was certified by every Sec of State. As far as I’m concerned, because of all that, the burden of proof is absolutely NOT on him just because a small group of people want to see another document on top of the one that was ALREADY presented and ALREADY declared by Hawaii (led by a REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR) as legit.

This can only end badly for conservatives IMO unless there is indisputable proof that the birthers come up with. Otherwise, he’s just going to sit back and laugh at the right, all while the media helps him in the process.

The only way I would think differently is if you get a massive majority to demand to see some documentation, but right now that number is like 10% of the country so it screams lunatic fringe. It’s Vince Foster all over again which made us look stupid. It’s the 911 idiots from the left that made them look so stupid.

In order for this to work, you would have us believe that B.O. bought off the state of Hawaii, including the GOP Governor, the hospital he was born in, and also had to buy off wherever else he was actually born along with all the other people around. He would have to have bought off the schools he attended when a birth certificate was required at those schools, he would have to buy off the DMV for his Driver’s license, he would have to buy off every other place that requires it.

My goodness, with my kids, I have to bring a birth certificate even for them to play Little League.

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see that vast of a conspiracy happening that could pull it off. I just don’t. Not only that, the guy is stepping in his own feces daily right now so why are we throwing him a lifeline of stupidity and taking this guy’s ridiculous policies off the front pages?


41 posted on 07/22/2009 5:28:37 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SteamShovel; All

>>> “Either prove he isn’t from Hawaii or drop this.”

This is the mantra that got me thinking about this...

Originally I thought the Zero BC thing might just be PR designed to “stir up” our guys on the right and get them motivated.

But...

This common theme “Either prove he isn’t from Hawaii or drop this.” has me thinking this might be for real. The blatant idiocy of that logic is just enormous. All the man has to do is show his f-—ing BC. Sh-t man... I had to do it before I joined the military, and I had to do it when I was hired at my civilian job. WE shouldn’t have to prove a f—king thing, it should already be in the public record. The fact that it isnt and that dirty di—os are running around hyperventilating while screeching “Either prove he isn’t from Hawaii or drop this.” just lends legitimacy to the issue.

On the other hand...

Even if it IS for real that this jackass doesn’t meet this basic qualification to be president, do NOT make it the “centerpiece” of our discontent. Efforts should be made to continue the propagation of this BC thing ***BUT***, make sure it remains where it belongs on our priority of issues. Its a tool for agitation... Thats it.. At least for now...

Stay focused on the states and pushing them towards REAL sovereignty. Keep pushing for further state laws that restore freedom to the people of that state. There are a lot of important and critical things that need to be done along the way to taking back our freedom from the marxist fedgov.

DO NOT take the bait that is being offered... DO NOT make this THE issue... NOW is the time to start HAMMERING the other BIGGER issues that further reveal the marxists in the fedgov.


104 posted on 07/23/2009 6:32:19 AM PDT by myself6 (.)
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