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WHY is left so focused on ABORTION, is it population change? Look at UK!
The Times Online (UK) ^ | 07/20/08 | Kackikat

Posted on 07/20/2009 2:58:02 PM PDT by Kackikat

Here is quote of Muslim Population explosion in last four years in UK....10 Times! Islam does not approve of abortion except in rare cases....so why is Zero pushing abortion in Healthcare Bill for new clinics, and when he was first elected billions were sent overseas for abortions...whose abortions?? From the Times Online Article: Please read it! "The total number of Muslims in Great Britain:

2004: 1,870,000

2005: 2,017,000

2006: 2,142,000

2007: 2,327,000

2008: 2,422,000

Source: Labour Force Survey "

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: abortion; children; muslims; population
I had heard a statistical christian a few years ago speaking about France, and that the way the French were repropducing, and their Muslim population was reproducing, that in ten years they would not be a French nation but a Muslim nation. NOW whether that is true or not is hard to find out as religion is not usually listed in French data. I was thinking about this abortion push in the new Healthcare bill, and ever since Zero took center stage in election, then the truckloads of money that went overseas to fund abortions; and it troubled me, so I did some research. I found out that we have had a slowdown in abortions in last few years, and the far left pro abortion groups have claimed it is because of accessibility...hence their need for new abortion clinics everywhere.

I'm sure Pelosi is on the bandwagon to get even with POPE for her chastising.

Anyway the statistics show that we have aborted over 40 million babies since 1976...an average of 1.2 million per year (2008 lowest number since 1976), and in 1990 (some years .4 million higher) at 1.6 million...that's 33 yrs X 1.2 million and then some; and that's why we have noone to pay into social security for the future.

The statistics for muslims in UK are best I could find, and their households where at least 34% had at least 5 people living there, so 3 children plus usually. Our 2000 census showed the US families averaging 1.86 children, and single parent homes .90 children...Sorry you can't make this stuff up. So if we have two children per household with children, because 50+ percent households do not have children, then we abort over a million per year....what does that do to our population compared to the numbers of muslims who now live here? It may take much longer than the UK, or other nations like France, but eventually we are overtaken by shear numbers. Then, as in UK, add to that the converts that seem to be joining Islam and you have a huge demographic shift. Think about the converts in prison system, jhadists, and our youth who are being taught to idolize zero....this is something we need to realize, as we try to take back our freedoms. There is a reason the speed at which the dems are pushing things through, it's to keep people too busy to think about the purposes.

More links for interesting reading provided below...I am not a statistician, and some of you can probably see the numbers clearer, but I've seen enough to realize there is more to this than "not wanting someone punished with a baby"...What say you? Please add your own research, and I found some far left articles trying to debunk these statistics as "right wing" theories, but those statistics in UK do not lie.

Please add your links throughout so we are all equipped with the right information to fight this war for freedom, even if it is only on paper at present...we need to inform the voters for 2010.

Some additional info links:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/16/AR2008011603624.html

UK statistics on Islam/Muslim families with children, as US stastics not found, that I considered reliable. Maybe your research could be added to this: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=961

Islam views on Abortion: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_abortion_allowed_in_Islam

If Islam population in UK is multiplying 10 times faster, then what is it doing in USA? Repeat Source URL: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5621482.ece

1 posted on 07/20/2009 2:58:04 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

From another post that I did earlier...

That evil and oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam and the way of implementing it by Sharia law is already making inroads right here in this country — the good ole USA. We’re about to see a “takeover” of the U.S. by the evil and oppressive idealogy of the government of Islam (that is aiming for world-wide conquest and has stated that the U.S. is *on its list* to take over...)

And for those people who need some additional facts about what the evil and oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam is doing, look at some of the following.

There’s no question about it... the enemy is *Islam* itself and the evil and oppressive and false idealogy that it perpetrates. Some say the problem is “fascism” (instead of the basic oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam, itself). But, that is to engage in “political correctness” and nothing more... and sidetracks people from the *true enemy* in this war.

In one generation we’ll see, right here in the United States that “Islam” is the enemy and not “fascism”...

Muslim Demographics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

and also, this...

Islam: What the West Needs to Know - FULL LENGTH ENGLISH VERSION
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781

and then, looking at this...

“The Third Jihad” (video - abridged version of film)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2271522/posts

This is the allowance of “false gods” to take over this nation because of the ignorance of the people of the land in regards to the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...

And so, we see that we’re going to have the “false god of Islam” ruling over the USA and running the USA in just one generation from now.


2 posted on 07/20/2009 3:08:11 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Kackikat

Not in 10 years.

In France, white folks make up about 93% of the population.

In the US, white folks make up about 70% (Down from 90% just a couple of decades ago).

If anyone has to worry about the lack of fertility amongst whites, its us more than the Euro’s, although they have a lingering time bomb to deal with as well.


3 posted on 07/20/2009 3:11:38 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Star Traveler

Thank you so much for posting those, and you are absolutely right. It came in the back door as a Senator who ran for President instead of carrying a bomb like a jhadist. King Abdullah is over the Holy cities of Islam..doesn’t that explain something.


4 posted on 07/20/2009 3:13:15 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Boiling Pots

Our problem is half the pregnancies get aborted.


5 posted on 07/20/2009 3:14:17 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat; Boiling Pots

You said — Our problem is half the pregnancies get aborted.

Yeah..., that Muslim Demographics video illustrates what is going on, quite well (I point that out here, since you’re addressing that very thing...)

Muslim Demographics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

[ ... 7.5 minutes long...]


6 posted on 07/20/2009 3:19:06 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

I want to watch the video, but at present my computer does not allow that, it will have to wait ...so I apologize if I say something that has already been covered. Hopefully the problem will be solved soon.


7 posted on 07/20/2009 3:27:01 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Star Traveler

Exactly! Give abortion to the nations that need it. Pick on any of the old g7 now displaced by islamic immigrants who now have 9-10 children. We the westerners went through the nuclear family and are now into negative growth CUZZ we passed through the nuclear family , out of family life into homosexual land!

Due to our negative grouth, its easier to be displaced. That my friend is another tool of mr Disdain, Anti -president of the US of A.


8 posted on 07/20/2009 3:27:46 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Kackikat

Mark Steyn’s book “America Alone” is an eye-opener on this and related matters.

It’s a startling thing to watch a people/nation/culture commit suicide by refusing to reproduce. Yet that’s precisely what Japan, France, Russia, and others are doing - with white America not far behind.

Reminds me of what Plautus said: “Conquered, we conquer.”


9 posted on 07/20/2009 3:28:15 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Kackikat

You said — I want to watch the video, but at present my computer does not allow that, it will have to wait ...so I apologize if I say something that has already been covered. Hopefully the problem will be solved soon.

Well, you gotta watch it somewhere then, because it’s the demographics and the *hard numbers* for the *destruction* of Western Civilization... it appears to be *final* to me...


10 posted on 07/20/2009 3:28:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Boiling Pots
The problem with America is that the Left has highjacked America's women through propaganda with movies and the leftist media.

They are told that men are trash and that men are simple-minded. Why then would a women want to raise a family with a man if it is bound to be disasterous? It's a self-fulfilling prophesy.

They are told that they have always been oppressed throughout American history. This is false because women have always had power as there are many types of power, and have had more wealth than the history books want to admit.

Women are taught that they can be as sexually permiscuous as any man and then when they get pregnant, they have the option to abort. There is no tempering a woman's actions with talk of consequences because they are supposedly so oppressed.

11 posted on 07/20/2009 3:30:56 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: Boiling Pots

I don’t understand why this guy is given credibility as some kind of spokesman for conservatives...

He supported Obama despite the fact that the GOP nominated the prototypical “moderate” he himself has been arguing for.


12 posted on 07/20/2009 3:32:02 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Star Traveler

I’ll send it to my friend and then go visit..lol


13 posted on 07/20/2009 3:35:00 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Good way to get your friend educated, too... :-)

You’ll both be absolutely shocked..., I guarantee you...


14 posted on 07/20/2009 3:36:28 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: LearsFool

Think about the thousands of missionaries we sent around the world, and into Africa and they became christian nations..and now we are sending them the finances to abort their children, it’s sad.


15 posted on 07/20/2009 3:37:02 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: LearsFool

You know the Asians were aborting the females and keeping the males...it makes me wonder about the change in “gender keeping statistics” with a comment I read about Obama...surely we won’t go to that creepiness.??


16 posted on 07/20/2009 3:39:59 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Obama just hates whites and americans .. it’s that simple.
Why can’t people just understand it?


17 posted on 07/20/2009 3:45:30 PM PDT by Munz (New DNC Motto: We won! Amerika Embrace the horror.)
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To: Munz

Your comment is right, but it is also about what he was taught from age 5-11...in Indonesia. Maybe he wasn’t in a Madrassa but he went to Mosque with his stepfather, and in their public schools at that time they had to take classes as their parents registered them, and he was registered Muslim...Why an an almost automatic bow to the King of Saudia Arabia? Because he is the religious leader of the Muslim Holy Sites...it’s not complicated...it’s really simple. ADD his upbringing to his wife’s BLT christianity, that says Jesus is black and allows retribution/violence against whites, and is pro-palestinian and you have a dangerous combination...Palestinians are muslims.

Paul said in bible that if they come preaching another Jesus have nothing to do with them....my Jesus was a Jew, and neither black nor white....a savior not just a prophet. Jesus also said “because they hated me they will hate you”...meaning his believers. That’s why Bush and Palin receive such horrible hatred and comments...it’s faith not politics. This whole thing we are going through is Islam vs Christianity and the infidels....that’s what it is.


18 posted on 07/20/2009 3:58:20 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

>This whole thing we are going through is Islam vs Christianity and the infidels....that’s what it is.<

I hate to sound like a nut, but I think that we are in the end times now. I mean everything is upside down ..

People are actually for a guy who is stealing from the sick and the old, not doing anything to protect them from nefarious politicians and greed.


19 posted on 07/20/2009 4:07:00 PM PDT by Munz (New DNC Motto: We won! Amerika Embrace the horror.)
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To: Munz

You are not the nut, the dems in congress and zero are the fruits and nuts...not us.


20 posted on 07/20/2009 7:37:08 PM PDT by Kackikat
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