Mormon leader to present Obama with family history

Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 7/20/09 | Matt Canham

[Osage Orange]

Osage Co.

About 15 miles..by crow flight...from the KS border, mol.

Well...some think you are a mormon basher and a bigot...if you just question their leaders.

No worries....yeah I knew the /s tag.

I was just tweaking ya, back!!

MOLON LABE

[Vendome]

You know, when I live in Tulsa in the 80’s, worked with a vary nice woman by the name of Martha Moore. You would have to see her, she was beautiful.

She is a Pawhuska tribe member and was Miss. Indian USA.

Sometimes I wonder she is doing these days.

Use to be real funny before voice mail and more advanced PBx’s Guys like Bill Cosby and Wayne Newton would call her at our office.

[Osage Orange]

There are some Moore's in Pawhuska......but the one's I am aware of are not Indian.

I suspect you mean....Osage tribe..as they have their HQ's in Pawhuska.

MOLON LABE

[La Enchiladita]

That is so fascinating. Being of half-Irish ancestry myself, I have done a lot of reading in Irish history and lore and never came across the name of Tegid. What I just found by searching says that he was Welsh.

The Irish race has several pre-cursors in that, before the Celts arrived, there were many tribes among them Tuatha De Danann who perhaps were a variety of Viking.

Nevertheless, I wonder why Tegid would want to claim Herod an ancestor, except for the fact Christianity was not an important factor for them.

And, when it comes to the genealogy of the early settlers of our New Land, if as you say they are descended from Richard III, I say, “Uh oh.” :):)

[Turret Gunner A20]

And you're an eloquent wordsmith.....!! Very nice.....

I'm glad you appreciate my brevity. I don't believe in wasting words on twits such as you.

[Vigilanteman]

You are correct. Tegid would better be described as a Welshman who had a lot of relations with the Irish, not a few of them in the sexual sense of the word.

As for Richard III, the end of the Plantagenet line, remember he was only the last Plantagenet king. So the Plantagenet's which were to become the ancestors of many of our early colonial settlers were, at best, distant cousins.

Of course, people forget that as dysfunctional as the Plantagenet family were by the time the last of their clan ruled, the Tudor successors were even more dysfunctional in many ways, particularly the loss of English territory. The Tudor reputation was only saved by the capable rule of Elizabeth I, the last of their line.

[La Enchiladita]

So the Plantagenet's which were to become the ancestors of many of our early colonial settlers were, at best, distant cousins.

I feel so much better now!:)

[Osage Orange]

Great intelligent...reply counselor!

[Vendome]

You are correct, Martha is Osage. She had introduced me to the Osage Nation in Pawhuska tribe for a business relationship.