Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Kells
I think we should drill here and drill now, keep the Red Chinese or anyone other than Canada and Mexico (within a fifty mile radius of their shores not overlapping our waters (which should be expanded to the 50 mile standard that others claim) from tapping American oil under the seas and oceans, but also try to see to it that we do not find ourselves at the mercy of others by tapping out all of our reserves or even a substantial portion. There are people more learned than I as to our oil reserves. I would defer to them and Pentagon officials on the need to drill Aerucan oil in large quantities and the probable consequences and I would have no hesitancy based on any environmental concerns whatsoever.

Have you proof of GOP leadership support for cap 'n' tax? Cap 'n' tax or anything vaguely similar is flat out unacceptable like most envirowhackoism.

The notion of intentional policy by the GOP to make America subservient to Mideast oil interests rather than enjoying independence seems unlikely to me but I will give you a fair shot to demonstrate your claim. On that one you may well know more than I.

OTOH, the delay in constructing the pipeline is likely another Demonrat scheme to prevent the preservation of a middle class way of life away from the gummint teat. Increasinly, since the McGovernization of the Demonrats, such a policy also seems likely to maximize non-elitist pain inflicted by upper income Demonrats on mere mortals.

So, in short, I do not accept any "green cover story on anything. If greens claim the sun rises in the east, that would require sensible people to double check.

Maybe, if Jimmuh Cahtuh, a Demonrat Paulie on foreign policy had not stuck his nose into Iranian affairs, the Shah of Shahs might have passed his crown to his college student son and namesake and the revolution against the crown by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini woukld have been crushed with maximum bloodshed of the Islamolunatics. Just as we will miss opportunities under treasonweasel Obama through January 2013, so we missed many under Cahtuh. If we retake Congress or come close in 2010, we minimize the damage until we can again have an American POTUS prepared to do what needs doing.

What would realy be in our interest is controllin much more of the world's oil reserves (say as reparations for the Gulf War, the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and any wars yet to come. World opinion be da*ned. Just do it.

It looks like it will fall to Bibi Netanyahu to keep Ahmanutjob and the Mullahs out of the nuke club. The US is out of action on that front during the duration of Hussein/Biden/Hillary.

We have survived the first eighth of Obamanation's regime. The general public is plenty pissed already. We have a lot longer to go but, if Ron Paul is the answer, it must be an uncommonly silly question. He is not the answer. He is finished on the national stage except as a national media marionette serving Obamanation's interests but there are alternatives and we, as conservatives and as Americans, will choose one, Sarah or otherwise. Whomever we choose, will NOT be a paleopeacecreep or a social liberal.

264 posted on 07/24/2009 3:03:50 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 263 | View Replies ]


To: BlackElk
try to see to it that we do not find ourselves at the mercy of others by tapping out all of our reserves or even a substantial portion. There are people more learned than I as to our oil reserves.

We cannot know our reserves without exploration but that is now largely forbidden. Oil experts work for the internationalized oil companies that have plenty of work overseas. They are businessmen who would never challenge the establishment as Palin has done. New US oil fields could be explored and prepared during periods of high prices but the higher cost pumping stations would be preserved for for later use during periods of low cost imports.

Have you proof of GOP leadership support for cap 'n' tax?

Both the McCain and Obama campaigns officially supported the program. The leadership of both parties serve the same circle of large donors who give to both sides. It seems that an agenda is proposed and one of parties is designated to float a partial opposition that will be abandoned unless the public sharply reacts. In that case the agenda item is made a priority for propaganda outlets but shelved politically until reintroduction upon the next cycle. Despite their faults and differences, Palin and Paul appear to be cut from a different clothe and Palin is uniquely gifted.

So it would appear is has been "decided" that cap 'n' tax will go forward. There was even an attempt to say Palin flip-flopped because of here strong stand against. I look forward to seeing what other Republicans will do now that she has thrown down the gauntlet. Palin has a record of targeting the weakest positions of the elite to obtain maximum victory for the public.

The notion of intentional policy by the GOP to make America subservient to Mideast oil interests rather than enjoying independence seems unlikely to me but I will give you a fair shot to demonstrate your claim. On that one you may well know more than I.

I have no gnostic revelations, only empirical observations. There were protests of "No blood for oil" during Bush I's Iraq war and news releases that Bush II's war would be financed by oil. Alan Greenspan's autobiography claimed the war was motivated by oil. Oil served as the subtext or back-up justification in case anyone doubted the succession of top level reasons given.

OTOH, the delay in constructing the pipeline is likely another Demonrat scheme to prevent the preservation of a middle class way of life away from the gummint teat.

Alaska is more Republican than Democrat. I don't have a citation, but I remember Palin saying on some interview that the Republicans, Democrats, and oil companies themselves were to blame because they would rather import from properties overseas. An across-the-board tariff would increase the incentive.

So, in short, I do not accept any green cover story on anything. If greens claim the sun rises in the east, that would require sensible people to double check.

Yes, but my point is that the agenda-setting leadership does not believe its own press releases. They use the green fables for manipulation.

What would realy be in our interest is controllin much more of the world's oil reserves (say as reparations for the Gulf War, the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and any wars yet to come. World opinion be da*ned. Just do it.

You would think. Prior to the twentieth century, war has always been inseparable from the principles of land acquisition and booty. The Crusades were motivated by a higher purpose, but never to the exclusion of spoils. Prior to WWI, every war we won resulted in some tangible acquisition for the national interest. Booty provides a light at the end of the tunnel motivating the stronger side to victoriously end the fighting, at least long enough to enjoy his spoils.

After the Spanish-American war, all our fighting has been in "altruistic" wars to end all war. Not do we fail to take spoils, but now we can't even win and come home anymore. Since 1950s, the government-media starts off a war with a hyper-patriotic, drumbeat but later switches to a mixed-emotions, guilt-trip which saps the will needed for victory. The principles of "spoils to the victor" and even "fight to win" are evidently gone from the agenda.

I am encouraged to see a leader on the horizon showing promise of going beyond the concept of a purely notional nation. Imagine redirecting US policy toward the interest of her citizens.

267 posted on 07/25/2009 9:04:36 AM PDT by Kells (Andrew Jackson was the only President to pay off the National Debt. His Epitaph: "I Killed the Bank")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 264 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson