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To: Technogeeb
What you are saying is that because of some idealistic sense of Levin type constitutional theory never to be the law again that hospitals (and us) must be raped by the uninsured forever, and we must give Obama that as an argument for free abortions (claiming emergency room costs).

Problem is, conservatives want so called unconstitution decisions, ever hear Levin rail against the federal partial birth abortion law??

111 posted on 07/17/2009 1:53:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: sickoflibs
What you are saying is that because of some idealistic sense

You think it is idealistic to believe the Constitution means what it says? Or is it idealistic to believe that government shouldn't be composed of a bunch of criminal thugs that break the law with their every legislative act?

of Levin type constitutional theory

I'm not sure why you want to bring Levin into this conversation except to set up some kind of argumentum ad verecundiam fallacy. The Constitution speaks very clearly for itself; this sort of spending is illegal, and the people advocating it are criminals. Even if it were not so clear (which it is), the writings of the Founders make it painfully clear that the Federal government was to be one of limited, enumerated powers. If you disagree it doesn't mean there is any controversy regarding the issue; it simply means you are wrong.

never to be the law again that hospitals (and us) must be raped by the uninsured forever, and we must give Obama that as an argument for free abortions (claiming emergency room costs).

No, that would be a rather poor strawman argument. The solution is very simple. It solves all these problems at the federal level. Instead of building error on top of error, it solves the real problem.

The solution is that the Federal government shouldn't be involved in health care in any way outside of that legally allowed under the Constitution (military/veterans).

Problem is, conservatives want so called unconstitution decisions, ever hear Levin rail against the federal partial birth abortion law??

I don't pay attention to media celebrities, but this Levin guy you keep talking about sounds pretty bright.

112 posted on 07/17/2009 2:12:04 PM PDT by Technogeeb (The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
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