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To: Know et al
Question: What would happen if an officer now in Afgan./Iraq, were to file a suit such as the one Major Cook filed, would their orders be rescinded?

Almost certainly not.

At the minimum, the officer would be charged with something related to refusing to follow orders, maybe Insubordination. No one is too big to avoid suffering the consequences of not following an order. See for example: Douglas MacArthur.

Followed by a Court Martial.

Followed by (if convicted) a trip to lovely Fort Leavenworth, Kansas or similar for many years, being discharged, or having your rank striped. Or all of the above.

125 posted on 07/16/2009 2:18:23 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney & his sons: members of the 1st Winnebago Motor Home Brigade, aka "The Fightin' RVs")
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To: mountainbunny

What if an officer followed an order, but also asked for clarification of its validity through proper channels?

Would there be a court martial in this case?


126 posted on 07/16/2009 2:20:48 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: mountainbunny; Know et al

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89837

The above link is a World Net Daily story on 1LT Scott Easterling who is currently serving in Iraq. He is also represented by Orly Taitz and suing for the release of Barak Obama’s BC.

His 15 month deployment is just about up.


130 posted on 07/16/2009 2:25:32 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: mountainbunny
At the minimum, the officer would be charged with something related to refusing to follow orders, maybe Insubordination. No one is too big to avoid suffering the consequences of not following an order. See for example: Douglas MacArthur.

So suppose I - having never been able to serve in the military in my entire life - drive over to Hanscom AFB dressed up in Army surplus BDUs with all the proper insignia in place and a pair of these, at $3.50 each, stitched to my shoulders:

... and started barking out orders, would any colonel who politely requested that I produce credentials to prove my identity and authority be subject to court martial?

131 posted on 07/16/2009 2:26:25 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mountainbunny
Almost certainly not. At the minimum, the officer would be charged with something related to refusing to follow orders,

A "suit like this" would not mean refusing to follow the orders, it would mean asking for verification that they were legitimate and lawful. That is everyone's obligation, whenever their is realistic doubt about them.

Think about it this way. Suppose some guys shows up at your Intelligence shop, wearing the uniform of the appropriate service and grade, claiming to have just replaced your bosses boss, and orders you to admit him to the secure facility and brief him on the "current situation"? Do you do it?

You darn well better not without something more concrete than his statement. You have an obligation to protect the information in the facility from unauthorized disclosure. Asking to see his assignment orders, which would also contain his basic clearance information, would be the bare minimum you would want to do. You'd also have to verify he was cleared for any particular compartments that the facility might contain information from.

This is like that, the Major just wants to be assured of the apparent President, really is who and what he says he is.

194 posted on 07/17/2009 12:50:20 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mountainbunny
See for example: Douglas MacArthur.

Oranges and apples???

Not a very good example, you see President Truman had that power as an legal NBC elected President. The present PINO in the White House does NOT have the same power, hmmmm!!!

233 posted on 07/17/2009 11:06:57 AM PDT by danamco
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