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To: LeoOshkosh
Will that be the same reason you give when the next 20 soldiers refuse to go?

You seem happy about the prospect of mutiny....

And by the way, it does amaze me that military folks on here believe this guy must serve a fraudulent traitor no matter what.

I believe that this guy is confused about the difference between national security and his personal political beliefs. The rationale for being in Afghanistan is the same as it was before Obama became president -- the reason for his orders has nothing to do with who is president now.

All this guy wants is proof that this loser meets CIC eligibility requirements. That is all.

No, it's not "all." What he wants to do, whether he realizes it or not, is to establish a precedent for the military questioning the authority of its military chain of command ... for any reason, not just this one. The consequences of that process would be very ugly: a politicized military playing a role in vetting their commander in chief. Ask the ancient Romans how that worked out....

260 posted on 07/15/2009 11:31:36 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
"I believe that this guy is confused about the difference between national security and his personal political beliefs. The rationale for being in Afghanistan is the same as it was before Obama became president -- the reason for his orders has nothing to do with who is president now."

So if someone took over the WhiteHouse by force, soldiers should still serve that person whether or not it was legal? Here is the other problem with your argument. Most agree that normal citizens do not have standing to file suit against zero. But many agree that a soldier would have standing. If a soldier is the only one with standing, are you saying we should allow a fraudulent traitor to stay in the White House even though it is illegal just so we can say that the military was doing its job?
314 posted on 07/15/2009 2:46:11 PM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: r9etb
I believe that this guy is confused about the difference between national security and his personal political beliefs.

Idunno about anyone else, but politics has nothing to do with My agreeing about the necessity of him providing and actual -VERIFIABLY actual Birth Certificate. I had to provide that and more when I joined up, how come he is somehow exempt?

341 posted on 07/15/2009 5:31:29 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: r9etb
What he wants to do, whether he realizes it or not, is to establish a precedent for the military questioning the authority of its military chain of command ... for any reason, not just this one.

You're blowing this way out of proportion. Let's let the chips fall where they may. Get the eligibility issue settled (which is substantial & foundational), and things will get back to "normal".

It's not the Major's fault that a usurper inhabits the White House. He's just trying to get the issue resolved for conscience's sake--both his and his comrades in arms.
359 posted on 07/15/2009 6:21:35 PM PDT by HotLead61 (Death as a Free Man is much preferred to "life" as a slave)
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