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Cement plants being asked to sacrifice for clean air (Hussein says nothing about shovel ready jobs)
My San Antonio ^ | 7/12/09 | Colin McDonald

Posted on 07/12/2009 9:19:35 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Son House

Parking lots are made from asphalt, a coal/coal tar derivative. It has pollutants in it.

Gee. No asphalt, no cement, no modern America.

Obama the Red will get his wish - America will become a 3rd World shithole just like his father’s country Kenya and Indonesia, where he spent his younger years.

Hey, liberals. You voted for this clown. Hope you remember this when you stand in the unemployment line.


21 posted on 07/12/2009 11:56:56 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Libloather
Building America - with less cement.

If spit, chewing gum and baling wire were good enough for....

OTOH, I can just see retreaded Hippies picketing with signs, "Cement relationships, not Mother Gaea!"

22 posted on 07/13/2009 12:16:41 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: jessduntno; Cheetahcat
“Simple Obamacrete twice the sand and just enough cement to give a Grey color.”

LOOKS SOLID BUT WILL CRUMBLE UNDER A LOAD.

IIRC, about 30 or so years ago, some contractors tried that on a couple of highway overpasses in Nevada.

Didn't work then; won't work now.

23 posted on 07/13/2009 12:26:39 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: Libloather

Cement production is a HUGE emitter of CO2 as calcium carbonate (CaCO3) is “calcined” to CaO + CO2 on its trip through the kiln. I’m very surprised this article focused on nitrogen oxides instead of CO2 as a reason to shut down the kilns.

But, if TX takes the CA lead, they use CO2 as another reason to force them out of business. I hear there’s lots of cement we can import from Mexico.


24 posted on 07/13/2009 1:43:11 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Libloather
How many celebrations can Chinese businessmen take over our nation's stupidity and their windfalls from it? Their livers have to be at the "help me" stage.
25 posted on 07/13/2009 1:47:51 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

big yellow taxi - joni mitchell in concert 1970

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgMEPk6fvpg

“They paved paradise to put up a parking lot”


26 posted on 07/13/2009 3:17:17 AM PDT by Son House (President Øbama Turns His Back On The Oppressed During Their Darkest Hours)
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To: Libloather

I think a number of folks are missing the point of the original SA Express-News article. That’s not surprising...since it’s not exactly a decent newspaper.

The point is that San Antonio is ONE tick away from hitting a number of clean air restrictions that we currently do not have to live under. These are things like emissions testing when you register your car...restrictions on industrial emissions, etc. Basically things that would make living here have a number of hurdles that are not currently in place.

It sounds silly...but the city is trying to AVOID regulation by asking the cement plants to do a temporary shutdown. I live about three miles from one of the plants in question.


27 posted on 07/13/2009 5:11:16 AM PDT by AlaninSA
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To: AlaninSA
Muslims want to do away with concrete, it was not around in the 7th century.
28 posted on 07/13/2009 5:19:53 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: TYVets
Muslims want to do away with concrete, it was not around in the 7th century.

Part of the Collisseum in Rome is concrete. It was around long before Mo started that mess.

29 posted on 07/13/2009 6:52:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Libloather
The biggest story of this is that The EPA just last year changed the 8-hour ozone standard from .080 ppm to .075 ppm...there are many areas in the nation that did not have an ozone problem until the standard was changed. Also...the background level of ozone is ~.045 ppm. So, it does not take much to put a city over the standard.
30 posted on 07/13/2009 6:58:21 AM PDT by halo66
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To: ApplegateRanch

“LOOKS SOLID BUT WILL CRUMBLE UNDER A LOAD.
IIRC, about 30 or so years ago, some contractors tried that on a couple of highway overpasses in Nevada.

Didn’t work then; won’t work now.”

Well they are going to drive up the price of everything and more expensive cement leads to “Bad” Ideas.


31 posted on 07/13/2009 6:58:48 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Parking lots are made from asphalt, a coal/coal tar derivative. It has pollutants in it.

Asphalt, the paving material, is made from aggregates and bitumen (also called asphalt or asphaltic cement), a petroleum product, not coal tar derivatives. Asphalt sealers are often coal tar derivatives, though.

32 posted on 07/13/2009 7:05:17 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Oldexpat
We can just import cement from Mexico. They have the biggest cement company in the world and we don’t need these dirty industries in the US.

Maybe we can export enough jobs to Mexico that the illegal immigrants will move back there for work.

33 posted on 07/13/2009 8:31:53 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: AlaninSA
Austin and SA have been in an attainment zone since the 80s. Even rural east Texas is a attainment zone. West Texas is non-attainment, and autos there don't have emission testing.

Keep in mind that the cement kilns in Texas and the nation are all burning hazardous waste, sometimes even tires. Except they don't call it burning, its "thermal oxidizing".

34 posted on 07/13/2009 9:51:59 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“I hear there’s lots of cement we can import from Mexico.”

I hope it is better than half-baked Mexican brick. Nor would increased importation help our trade imbalance. What happens when the EPA shuts down all domestic industry and the worthless dollar shuts down importation? We are being reduced to a 3rd-world country — by design. Is anyone fighting mad yet?


35 posted on 07/13/2009 9:55:28 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (BLOAT - Buy lots of ammo today)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

China already uses 50% of all the cement produced world-wide every day.

The cost of cement here has more than doubled in the past 4 years. My share must be in the big dam holding back 3 rivers in China.


36 posted on 07/13/2009 3:49:43 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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