Posted on 07/10/2009 9:53:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
And no white (or green) women get similar expressions? Why no Wicked Witch of the West comparisons with Michelle? Does Hillary really look anything like that witch?
The problem with using Aunt Esther, even if the comparison has some merit on appearance and is entirely innocent of racism, is that the other thing the two women clearly have in common is race and, further, Aunt Esther comes with a whole baggage train of black stereotypes that come along for the ride, as well as being a fairly unflattering comparison in general . It's like finding a picture of Evita Peron with a similar expression to one in a picture of Sarah Palin and posting them side-by-side. Perhaps the expression is similar but the other woman comes with a lot of baggage.
As for the argument that both Aunt Esther and Michelle Obama are "angry women" (I'll ignore the "angry black women" angle for now), the general public is not convinced that Michelle Obama is an angry woman, so that leaves them seeing only one comparison. Both women are black.
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Yeah.Right...
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And I doubt anyone is complaining about those pictures, which is why they are a better choice than pictures comparing Obama with stereotypical blacks. But what Michelle? What white women has she been compared to? How about her mother? Perhaps I've simply missed the comparisons and pictures.
Im sick and tired of the LEFT telling me WHAT I CANT SAY. Meanwhile they say the most dispicable things and claim FREE SPEACH. QUID PRO QUO my commie friends......
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Thank you, sir.
It’s the whole reason behind their “protected classes” -
to insulate their forerunners from criticism.
Nerdier than 98%, I can see that. The answer is NO, NO and NO. The personal attacks will not stop and I have to question your real motivation. MO is fair game. End of story.
I remember Kos. That was the rat fad that came after Democrat Underground and before Huffington, right?
I’ve used the term “ghetto” when referring to WHITE people many times. It is not racist.
Wondering is ok. Questioning the appropriateness of the attire is ok.
Referring to the First Family as "family of ghetto trash", "ghetto thugs", "A stain on America", and "a typical street whore" is beyond acceptable behavior.
I am sure most here would oppose references to the Bush daughters that fell along these lines.
Apparently you are late to the party. Most freepers aren't silent.
What I am saying is that you were not clear on what action that you intended to take.
Why is my statement about the mister nice guy crap is getting to be over the top is not being read as the way it was stated?
Because this does not clearly state your intended actions. It simply says that you are tired of being "A nice guy". Subsequent actions can take many forms. You have now cleared that up. It isn't your intention to emulate the left.
Hmmm... seems to me there were Jewish ghettos in Germany.
The term refers to a geographic area where the underclass, either by force or by choice, group and live together.
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Since the "angry women" comment was mine, I think I'll respond.
If you were to use an image to poke fun at Palin, would you use an image of a white woman or a black woman? I'd use an image of a white woman, because Palin is white.
I'm all for not taking aim at children, but unless the owner of this site makes it clear that poking fun at the opposition is unacceptable, I'm not going into the business of denying reality.
Jim, I completely agree with you on that point. But, with all due respect, racially offensive posts (usually triggered by pictures of the Obamessiah and/or his wife) appear on FR too frequently and are not usually directed at his children. For instance, I see nothing wrong with mocking Michelle Obama's lack of fashion sense, and am myself a member of that ping list. But, a lot of those threads also contain poster-created captions and quotes that make liberal use of ebonics and racial stereotypes. Mocking someone's fashion sense is a lot different than attributing their style to their ethnicity.
Do you have some guidance on how you would wish such posts to be handled if they're reported as abuse to moderators?
Michelle Obama is compared to Aunt Esther for two reasons, one the their similar expressions and the second is that Michelle is considered by many to have a similar demeanor.... This comparsion would not have been as effective with any other woman.. Anything perceived to be negative will be attached, adhere to the standards set by this forum and be prepared to DEFEND them. There is no problem with the comparison, there may be a problem with how it is presented.... Such as foul abusive language.
So, what do you think of derision (ebonics, etc) based on cultural tendencies (ie, cultural stereotypes) instead of on skin color?
Or are they inseparable? Is this “inseparability” belief, in and of itself, racist?
I scanned that thread yesterday, and your perception is accurate. But, those type of comments are offensive when directed at Michelle Ma Belle as well. The fashion ping threads used to be hysterically funny (imo), given that Michelle's weird, mostly tatesless style provides so much fodder. But there's been a gradual evolution of a few commenters who resort to ebonics and offensive racial stereotyping in their poor attempts to be "funny". Those type of remarks aren't funny and it needs to stop, imo.
The article clearly stated that SHE chose to wear that shirt, it was not chosen by mom or dad.
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There you go. That settles it. If the article said she chose it herself then that must be true. By the way, I have some swamp land in Florida that I want to sell..............interested? :P
Heaven knows some of us have made mistakes on FR and learned from them. I know we can’t be told who wrote those comments, but I surely hope the authors have learned from this, and others too. I agree with those who say..there are too many important things to focus on. We can all learn from this.
As a side note, do you think that the other side will respond with appreciation for those on fr who speak out against this behaviour? If indeed KOS has a lot of nasty hatefilled comments on their site, will they too demand “respect” from their own members? This has forced me to decide to lurk at their website...and ‘monitor’.
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