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Watch Who You’re Calling a Liar (Panetta orders internal probe of secret spy program)
Newsweek ^ | 7-9-09 | Mark Hosenball, Michael Isikoff

Posted on 07/09/2009 9:15:33 PM PDT by STARWISE

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To: STARWISE

A fake investigation over a fake program. Assuming for a moment if it was true, how did Pelosi find out about it if she wasn’t authorized to know about it?

Well see if any whistle blowers come to light.


21 posted on 07/09/2009 10:17:55 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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To: STARWISE
by failing to inform the oversight committees about the program

Hells bells, if every agency is required to 'inform oversight committees' about every program that is set up but never used they are going to need a few million more 'interns' to read everything. Congress members don't even read what they are required to read as it is!

It is all smoke and mirrors to cover Pelosi's butt!

22 posted on 07/09/2009 10:21:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl; All

Pigs are flying ...

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Editorial
Sharing Secrets in the Capitol

Excerpt:

Published: July 9, 2009

President Obama is wisely threatening to veto the intelligence budget bill if Congress requires that information about covert actions be shared by some 40 lawmakers on the two intelligence committees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/opinion/10fri4.html


23 posted on 07/09/2009 10:45:15 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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Secret Program Fuels CIA-Congress Dispute - Leon Panetta canceled the CIA program when he found out about it.

By Paul Kane and Ben Pershing
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, July 10, 2009

Excerpt:

Four months after he was sworn in, CIA Director Leon E. Panetta learned of an intelligence program that had been hidden from Congress since 2001, a revelation that prompted him to immediately cancel the initiative and schedule a pair of closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill.

*snip*

Some Republicans, meanwhile, privately questioned whether Panetta — who has stood with CIA officers in a dispute with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) — was looking to score points with House Democrats.

The program remains classified, and those knowledgeable about it would describe it only vaguely yesterday. Several current and former administration officials called it an “on-again, off-again” attempt to create a new intelligence capability and said it was related to the collection of information on suspected terrorists that was instituted after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/09/AR2009070903017.html?hpid=topnews


24 posted on 07/09/2009 10:49:51 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

“Some Republicans, meanwhile, privately questioned whether Panetta — who has stood with CIA officers in a dispute with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) — was looking to score points with House Democrats.”

The RATS are looking to go back to the pre-911 days. They will do this by purging the agency of actual workers and bring on more NE Liberal weenies to run cover for them.


25 posted on 07/09/2009 11:00:36 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Climate change alarmists are Warm-Mongers. Now that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.)
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To: razorback-bert
I hope this blows up in their face.

It had better, or this will blow up in all of our faces. It never ceases to amaze me how Democrats are perfectly OK with damaging our national security to further their partisan ambitions.

With this behavior they set up a situation where the intelligence community will become motivated to do what they are falsely accused of doing: keeping the Dem Congress in the dark in order to keep those a..holes from spilling the beans on our intelligence practices.

26 posted on 07/09/2009 11:10:59 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: razorback-bert
I hope this blows up in their face.

If you remember, the CIA was running a psy-op backdoor operation against the Bush Whitehouse because it was filled with Dem operatives at the time.

You can almost guarantee this is going to come back and eat them.

27 posted on 07/09/2009 11:29:23 PM PDT by dalight
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To: razorback-bert

with a little c-4 to go with it.


28 posted on 07/09/2009 11:44:30 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: ETL
Great post. I didn't know any of that about the highly overrated phony moderate Panetta.

I do know this: in the early days of the Clinton administration, I saw him and Laura Tyson on Meet the Press arguing against balanced budgets. Then the Republicans took over congress, forced a sort of balanced budget on Clinton, and Panetta has been taking credit for Democrat "fiscal conservatism" ever since. He even has an institute based on this lie.

29 posted on 07/10/2009 12:09:08 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: STARWISE

The Able Danger program comes to mind....


30 posted on 07/10/2009 1:17:12 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Sarah/Liz in 2020)
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To: STARWISE

Panetta = Puñetta.

Jerking us off yet again...


31 posted on 07/10/2009 2:03:24 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: SFConservative

“It never ceases to amaze me how Democrats are perfectly OK with damaging our national security to further their partisan ambitions.”

Why should it amaze you? To further their political ambitions, Democrats are willing to:

lose a war,
destroy an economy,
allow millions of people to die,
...


32 posted on 07/10/2009 2:36:21 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: STARWISE
Step 1. Fabricate useful myths, make unfounded and even outrageous allegations against the United States and about those agencies and instruments of conventional US policy which are a barrier to your group's acquisition of power and ability to influence US policy. ...

Step 2. After you win an election, install your operatives as directors of these agencies so they will be accepted as credible authority figures and not as the threat they are to national security...

Step 3. Have your new directors fire or marginalize those agency employees whose compliance with your agenda cannot be guaranteed...

Step 4: Have your new directors promote those employees who share your ideology or agenda, or hire additional ones as needed to ensure all departments have a "minder" for all other staffers and control over the flow of information out of those agencies and to supress potential contrary leaks.

Step 5 : Have your new directors conduct "investigations" and "kangaroo hearings" to set the stage for the hit, and use installed or known compliant staffers as "witnesses" to the events - real or fictional- in your allegations to provide bait and fodder for the press to carry your message.

Step 6 : Have your new directors with their new "credibility" confess to and apologize for the allegations you desire the American people to accept as "fact." Repeat as needed until the public cries out for an overhaul, a purge or even elimination of the targeted agency or policy.

33 posted on 07/10/2009 3:21:09 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: STARWISE; Fedora
Note that one of the authors of this piece was deported from the UK for being a security risk.

* Agee & Hosenball : The Labour government had a chequered record on freedom of information. Whilst there was a clear commitment in the 1974 party manifesto for a FoI Act and to "place the burden on public authorities to justify withholding information" the government's instincts seemed to be more towards controlling and suppressing information. For example, it. . .also deported two Americans, Standard journalist Mark Hosenball and Philip Agee, a former CIA operations officer, on the grounds they were security risks. --------Response by the Campaign for Press and Broadcasting Freedom to the Freedom of Information Bill via 31 posted on 05/19/2005 2:27:44 PM PDT by Fedora | To 29 |

34 posted on 07/10/2009 3:32:33 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Wonder if either of these guys [Hosenball, Michael Isikoff] attended Obama’s BBQ last weekend?


35 posted on 07/10/2009 3:41:18 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: ETL

1974 to 1994 + : (IPS WORKS WITH COMMUNIST FRONT ORGANIZATIONS TO BUILD NETWORK TO NEUTRALIZE US INTELLIGENCE) During the past twenty years, the IPS has worked with Communist front organizations in building a network for the neutralization of US intelligence. In 1974, the Fund for Peace established the Center for National Security Studies (CNSS), which has worked closely with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in pursuing political and legal challenges against US intelligence. Staff and leadership for the CNSS have been drawn almost entirely from the IPS and the National Lawyers Guild (NLG); the NLG is the American branch of the Soviet-controlled International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL), operates as a front of the Communist Party, USA, and publicly supports dozens of terrorist groups ranging from the PLO to the Irish Republican Army (IRA). IPS member Morton Halperin became head of the CNSS.7 [7 Broken Seals, Op cit., passim; ‘Outlaws of Amerika,’ report of the Western Goals Foundation, Alexandria, VA, 1982, pp. 51-60, passim. ]


36 posted on 07/10/2009 3:43:40 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: ETL
More on IPS:

MARCH 21, 1955 : (BAGHDAD, IRAQ : SHALLAL IS BORN -- See IPS, AYERS, SHEEHAN ) Anas “Andy” Shallal (born March 21, 1955 in Baghdad, Iraq) is an Iraqi-American artist, activist and restaurateur best known for owning and operating Busboys and Poets in Washington, DC.
Shallal has founded or co-founded several peace movement organizations and holds leadership positions in numerous others. Most prominently, he has served as Foreign Policy in Focus Analyst at the Institute for Policy Studies. he visited and provided catering for Cindy Sheehan and other activists at Camp Casey in Crawford, Texas [see GWOT] Shallal is a recipient of the United Nations Human Rights Community Award and has been named Man of the Year by the Washington Peace Center.
------ http://tinyurl.com/5lmu6v 32 posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 3:54:38 PM by kcvl

37 posted on 07/10/2009 3:46:07 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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* IPS :
IPS members have included such prominent leftists as Morton Halperin, the former National Security Council staffer who supervised the drafting of the classified Pentagon Papers-a review of documents related to the Vietnam War. Foreign policy official Leslie Gelb and National Security Council member Anthony Lake illegally authorized the public release of the Pentagon Papers, and later affiliated with the IPS (Lake is now the National Security Advisor for Bill Clinton). Indeed, a number of IPS members were involved in the 1971 Pentagon Papers scandal, causing the FBI to investigate the IPS for espionage. -—— via “The Plot to Hijack the CIA; Is nuclear terrorism about to emerge? ,”Published in October 1994 Inside Story: World Report
Copyright (c) 1994 by Inside Story Communications via Anti-CommunistAnalyst.com ^
Posted on 10/21/2004 7:43:59 PM PDT by TapTheSource
***** ... What do all of these organizations [IPS, IPB, PAN, & HAP] have in common? Cora Weiss.
Cora Weiss is the daughter of Faberge millionaire and Soviet-phile Samuel Rubin. She is the president of the Samuel Rubin Foundation, which finances a host of communist causes. As well as president of her father’s foundation, Cora is president of the IPB, president of the HAP, an international representative of the PAN, and the principal financier of the IPS, which was founded by a grant from the Rubin Foundation. ...
In 1983, [Cora] Weiss was a delegate to an IPS sponsored US-USSR confab for disarmament. Delegates included members of the Riverside Church, which is allied with the National Council of Churches (NCC) and World Council of Churches (WCC). ...
The anti-Americanism of Riverside, the NCC and the WCC is well known. All three organizations were advocates for the North Vietnamese. All three organizations were advocates for Marxists revolutions in Africa. (Indeed, the WCC contributed to Robert Mugabe’s Marxist army.) All three organizations were advocates for the Marxist revolutions in Central America in the 1980’s. All three protested the deployment of Pershing missiles in Europe. All three condemned the Gulf War. All three condemned US military action against the Taliban.
Weiss is definitely plugged in to the good old comrade’s network. For example, the IPS Board of Directors contains such liberal luminaries as Harry Belafonte, Time magazine journalist Barbara Ehrenreich, and editor of The Nation magazine Katrina vanden Heuvel (who was formerly the director of the IPS’s Transnational Institute).
Each of these people are well known for their unrepentant leftwing commitments. Ehrenreich is the Vice–Chair of the Democratic Socialists of America. [Katrina] vanden Heuvel, is a staunch apologist for socialism. Belafonte was a founding member of the Hollywood chapter of SANE, a precursor of PAN. In December 2000, he received an honorary degree from Cuba’s Higher Arts Institute. Radio Havana reported that Belafonte said Cuba has always been an artistic haven for people who struggle for the liberation of humanity.
Cora’s old comrade network is incestuous as well. Peter Weiss, Cora’s husband, was the first chairman of the IPS, and is a member of the HAP board. He is a member of the National Lawyers Guild (NLG) and the Center for Constitutional Rights. The NLG is a communist proxy group. Both it and the Center for Constitutional Rights litigate government counter-intelligence activities. -———— ‘Red Queen of “Peace”,’ By Michael Tremoglie, FrontPageMagazine.com, December 11, 2002


38 posted on 07/10/2009 3:56:24 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

ping for later...this is a most educational thread. Thanks to all


39 posted on 07/10/2009 4:29:57 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: STARWISE

No, The Queen was dissed and is having revenge. She is the all powerful one who was shown to be pitiful quivering liar. She has returned to deal a poisonous death blow.

The evil one should be destroyed


40 posted on 07/10/2009 4:33:40 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war in Detriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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