[hiredhand]

Well! It looks like you and I agree on some things, and disagree on others! In the scope of what we're talking about though, I think we're still on the same side, and I'll count this as a good thing. We'll sit tight and see what happens I suppose. I think either of us will eat our words if we're wrong! I sure will! Thanks for not beating up on me. I've been whacked pretty hard lately...brought most of it on myself! But I appreciate swapping postings with somebody who can shoot back, disagree on minor things, and be civil about it. Thanks!

[tuckrdout]

I do too! Just found a very wise quote from Jefferson, that you might be interested in. Haven't yet found a place to use it, but it is very interesting.

"To constrain the brute force of the people, the European governments deem it necessary to keep them down by hard labor, poverty and ignorance, and to take from them, as from bees, so much of their earnings, as that unremitting labor shall be necessary to obtain a sufficient surplus to sustain a scanty and miserable life." --Thomas Jefferson to William Johnson, 1823.

Seems to be the idea of the dems and Obama.