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CBO Says Medicaid Expansion Would Cost $500 Billion
The American Spectator ^ | July 8, 2009 | Philip Klein

Posted on 07/08/2009 5:57:07 PM PDT by pleikumud

Remember last week when the media touted a new cost estimate by the Congressional Budget Office suggesting that Democrats on the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee had found a magic want enabling them to cover 97 percent of the uninsured for $600 billion? Well, we now know that the cost is more like $1.1 trillion, and likely higher. As I cautioned when the CBO numbers came out last week, the $600 billion estimate did not include the price of massively expanding Medicaid, a costly provision of all of the various Democratic health care proposals. But now the CBO released an additional estimate anticipating that legislation would add 15 million to 20 million more people to the Medicaid rolls. It found that the cost of such an expansion "could vary in a broad range around $500 billion over 10 years." But the catch is that such an estimate is of the anticipated federal cost of the Medicaid expansion. In actuality, the federal government typically pays around 57 percent of the cost of Medicaid, while the remaining 43 percent is picked up by the states. So what's the full cost of a Medicaid expansion at both the federal and state level?

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KEYWORDS: medicaid; medicare; obama; socialism
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To: Lurker

Oh, it will be a spectacle. Think “spectacular car crash”


21 posted on 07/08/2009 9:10:33 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: pleikumud
CBO Says Medicaid Expansion Would Cost $500 Billion...seems to me they just picked up $155 billion of that from US hospitals, who've pledged to accept that much in Medicaid and Medicare cuts over the next ten years - hailed as a big advance for the Obama team toward their national health care plan - but in fact if they can shift ten million or so patients who should already be on Medicaid on to the plan, the hospitals will save easily that many dollars in "free" care they now are required to provide for these duds who now would rather go to an emergency room and get immediate care than join Medicaid and have to wait in a doctor's office for treatment like the rest of us poor fools.....
22 posted on 07/08/2009 9:22:45 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: SunkenCiv

NOooooo, No Mitt Romney..

God, can’t we find SOMEONE else.,


25 posted on 07/09/2009 12:35:23 AM PDT by Kitanis
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
The Russian academic wasn't so far-fetched when he predicted the fall of the American Empire?

The funny thing is that the Soviet Empire appeared to be strong under Brehnev with the invasion of Afghanistan back in '79.

Bush may had been our Brehnev and Obama's our Gorbachev.

26 posted on 07/09/2009 12:52:18 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: pleikumud

Here’s a short piece based around a very straightforward Sowell economic analysis that lays out very clearly why this is doomed to failure.

Insights From Thomas Sowell
Peter Robinson, 07.03.09, 12:01 AM EDT
Why the government can’t reduce the cost of health care.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/02/health-care-government-insurance-opinions-columnists-thomas-sowell.html


27 posted on 07/09/2009 4:04:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

If medicine had taken the path of technology in the last few decades, we would have far lower prices, easier access, and higher quality medical care. Compare the 1981 IBM PC for $3,300 to today’s iMac for $1,500. The old IBM PC is now the Stone Age, and iMac’s are hundreds of thousands of times better for half the price.

In other words, medicine should have been left to the private sector, to free enterprise and competition. The monkey wrench thrown into the gears by LBJ & Company was Medicare/Medicaid. Right now, the federal government’s role should be reduced, not increased. The Demo-Socialists have it jackass backwards. Medicine should be returned to the private sector, where competition always produces higher quality, lower prices, easy access, and many choices.


28 posted on 07/09/2009 4:38:29 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: pleikumud

Weimar Republic, Part Deux.


29 posted on 07/09/2009 4:50:23 AM PDT by sono (Allahu FUBAR)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
no not a crash and burn......just total govt control...you will not have money in the bank...you will not be able to access any govt "benefits" because you're probably not in the protected class....

I still worry about my Roths and my 401....will I even have it anymore......and if I withdrew it all....where would it be safe for MY use?

our America is gone.....

30 posted on 07/09/2009 6:57:23 AM PDT by cherry
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To: NautiNurse
I overheard one of our doctors talking about this a few months ago. He also said that he earned $17.00 per hour for Medicare patients. That's less per hour than what our graduate nurses earn before they get pass their NCLEX exam.

If the Obama care goes through, I would think his percentage of Medicare/Medicaid patients will probably increase - maybe be the majority of his patients?

31 posted on 07/09/2009 7:41:04 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: SpineSurgeon
I absolutely refuse to take it in my private practice.

I don't believe there will be anything known as "private practice" if TOTUS and Congress continue to get their way with health care, and every other industry.

32 posted on 07/09/2009 9:46:52 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: cherry
no not a crash and burn......just total govt control...you will not have money in the bank...you will not be able to access any govt "benefits" because you're probably not in the protected class....

I still worry about my Roths and my 401....will I even have it anymore......and if I withdrew it all....where would it be safe for MY use?

That's my definition of a crash-and-burn.

34 posted on 07/09/2009 3:52:05 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Kitanis

In a way, I hope Mitt “Hairdo” Romney gets the nod in 2012, just to finish off his presidential aspirations.


35 posted on 07/09/2009 7:52:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: pleikumud

Well said, bump!


36 posted on 07/10/2009 3:43:32 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: NautiNurse

Can you please report more on the reality of what happens through the curent government controlled medical system (Medecaid and Medicare) or direct me to the best sources to explain the tragedy.

And yet, they want us to become Great Britain II with waiting lists out the kazoo for basic and even life saving medical care?

Surely the doctors can mount a protest still? NOT the AMA - they have sold out apparently to the socialists. But the doctors. UNITE and FIGHT - most Americans are happy with their healthcare. Let’s get together and stop this madness.


37 posted on 07/10/2009 3:47:12 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Thank you ....

The Socialist Obama and the Socialist Congress want to dictate our medical care. If we allow them to do this, then toss all other rights we have into the trash can. Control over medical care is control over your life. Government interference in the free market (think Medicare and Medicaid) is the reason most of us pay huge premiums for medical insurance and care. The Socialists want to expand government control until we have no choice about our own bodies. Government is not the solution, as the more “advanced” socialist countries have discovered, Government is the problem.


38 posted on 07/10/2009 4:12:17 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
they want us to become Great Britain II with waiting lists out the kazoo for basic and even life saving medical care?

A few years ago I was invited to tour a hospital in London. The facility and equipment were nothing short of a step back in time to circa 1968.

Medicare regulations for billing and compliance include a myriad of complex documentation guidelines developed with the full cooperation and assistance of the AMA. The AMA sold out physicians because they were threatened with losing their largest source of revenue (copyrighted medical charge codes) when another corporation developed a new set of codes with the blessing of the feds.

39 posted on 07/10/2009 10:53:42 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: NautiNurse

Yes, that explains it perhaps! Is there an alternative for healthcare professionals now other than the AMA?


40 posted on 07/11/2009 6:44:46 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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