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Natural Gas Cars Finally Getting Federal Attention, T. Boone Stoked
earth2tech ^ | 7/8/09 | Katie Fehrenbacher

Posted on 07/08/2009 3:45:54 PM PDT by shove_it

After being largely snubbed by the stimulus package and so far, the climate bill, T. Boone Pickens’ natural gas vehicle mantra (backed by a $58 million marketing campaign) looks like it’s finally starting to be heard on the Hill. This afternoon Sens. Harry Reid (Majority Leader), Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said they’ve introduced legislation called the Nat Gas Act aimed at encouraging the development and purchasing of natural gas vehicles (check out 10 Things You Should Know About Natural Gas Vehicles). Of course Pickens was there for the event and made a typically aggressive statement claiming that the legislation would “do more to reduce our foreign oil dependency crisis than any other piece of legislation in the past 40 years.”

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Here’s what the Nat Gas Act proposes to do:

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(Excerpt) Read more at earth2tech.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; energynatgas
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1 posted on 07/08/2009 3:45:55 PM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

There goes my heating bill through the roof.


2 posted on 07/08/2009 3:47:37 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: shove_it
T. Boone Pickyerpockets.
3 posted on 07/08/2009 3:51:13 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: shove_it

I am so against this. I don’t know how I’m going to afford my heat if this idiot gets his way.


4 posted on 07/08/2009 3:52:45 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: shove_it

Had a cousin who worked for an oil company back in the 60s. This company gave NG away to it’s employees to fuel their vehicles. I see one thing that did not make the list of ‘10 things you should know...”. Acceleration sucks. His car was equipted to run on both NG and gasoline. When he needed to pass on the highway or accelerate to highway speed, he had to turn the engine off, switch to gasoline, and then restart the engine. Once he made the pass, it was turn the engine off, switch to NG, and then re-start the engine.

Of course, he could do this since his car was a gasoline vehicle modified to run on NG too.


5 posted on 07/08/2009 3:54:07 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: shove_it
Convert Power Plants from natural gas over to Nuclear. Use natural gas freed up as a transportation fuel. Reduce CO2 (even though I don't think CO2 is a problem) and our dependance on foreign oil. The technology EXISTS TODAY!

This is a *ucking no-brainer.

But then again this administration has no brains.
6 posted on 07/08/2009 3:57:10 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: shove_it

Actually, this makes a ton more sense than electric cars. Providing, of course, that the Congress allows us to drill for natural gas to meet demand.


7 posted on 07/08/2009 3:57:15 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: mysterio

Maybe this will go the same way as his 2 billion dollar windmills.


8 posted on 07/08/2009 3:58:43 PM PDT by evad (Spending money that we don't have on something that won't work for a problem that doesn't exist)
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To: shove_it

Anyone know what the impact is on engine life? On emissions (sorry, but I do enjoy clean air)? On range?


9 posted on 07/08/2009 3:59:12 PM PDT by TWohlford
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Seems like natural gas in a car is approaching the danger level of hydrogen powered cars. If even close, I’d rather switch to hydrogen...


10 posted on 07/08/2009 3:59:57 PM PDT by veracious
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11 posted on 07/08/2009 4:00:16 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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How it is transported? I know natural gas usually goes through pipelines, is that how it would be distributed into the cars?


12 posted on 07/08/2009 4:01:29 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out)
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To: DugwayDuke
I drove a work truck that was dual fuel...CNG and Gasoline...way back in '80-'81 I guess.

We never "flipped the switch"...unless we were doing 60 mph on the Freeway..then it would sputter and kick..and sometimes die.

Had poor acceleration as you've described...but wasn't that big of a deal.

13 posted on 07/08/2009 4:02:24 PM PDT by Osage Orange (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. - Will Rogers)
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To: shove_it

There’s only one problem. One has to *drill* to get natural gas. Then what to do with oil that comes with it.

Those silly libs.


14 posted on 07/08/2009 4:02:48 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: shove_it

Went busted on them thar windmills and now it is on to another loser program.


15 posted on 07/08/2009 4:02:54 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: veracious

“Seems like natural gas in a car is approaching the danger level of hydrogen powered cars. If even close, I’d rather switch to hydrogen...”

1. Hydrogen cannot be stored in metal tanks.
2. Hydrogen cannot be piped in.
3. Hydrogen production takes more energy to produce than it yields (poor energy storage medium).
4. Hydrogen causes engine metals to become brittle.

On the other hand, tons of city buses, not to mention fleet cars, already run on natural gas. It is a known commodity. The production of natural gas-powered cars is straight-forward, even if the tweaks (ie, the passing power situation) need some work.


16 posted on 07/08/2009 4:03:52 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: truthguy

Amen bro!


17 posted on 07/08/2009 4:04:07 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: shove_it
I had a NG service van in the early eighties, it was not cleaner running, but the big thing was it would not start in cold weather. You had to run water over the fuel tank to warm up the cold fuel to get it to start.

This was in FLORIDA !!!!!!!!!!

18 posted on 07/08/2009 4:04:28 PM PDT by MrPiper
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“I know natural gas usually goes through pipelines, is that how it would be distributed into the cars?”

They fill up a “propane tank” in the butt end of your car.


19 posted on 07/08/2009 4:04:48 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: shove_it; Ben Ficklin

ping


20 posted on 07/08/2009 4:05:35 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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