Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: TheRiverNile; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; ...
Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy and for more government regulation of national economies

All fascists/all the time.

"But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the LORD a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the LORD of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen." -- Malachi 1:14


"With Him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are His." -- Job 12:16

Thank God.

189 posted on 07/07/2009 1:36:58 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Dr. Eckleburg

Yep, and they wonder why people have an aversion to the Pope and to the Church. Maybe he’s not the anti-Christ but he is certainly promoting a one world order.


191 posted on 07/07/2009 1:46:50 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg; TheRiverNile; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; ...
Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy and for more government regulation of national economies

He also called for this global authority having the power to enforce it's redistributive plans. So much for individual freedom.

193 posted on 07/07/2009 1:48:33 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg

Was there a thread recently that pondered what would be said at the meeting between Barack and the Pope? Today, we have incite.


194 posted on 07/07/2009 1:49:53 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (What is coming next?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg

The UN section is tough to understand outside of the context of the rest of the encyclical.

This is his key caveat to his idea of re-purposing the UN:

“In order not to produce a dangerous universal power of a tyrannical nature, the governance of globalization must be marked by subsidiarity, articulated into several layers and involving different levels that can work together. Globalization certainly requires authority, insofar as it poses the problem of a global common good that needs to be pursued. This authority, however, must be organized in a subsidiary and stratified way[138], if it is not to infringe upon freedom and if it is to yield effective results in practice.”

One has to read all the prior sections to see what he means by “subsidiarity” and how it relates to government and liberty.
~~
While we differ on issues of the Church, I would hop eyou would reflect on this. Right now, I see a lot of knee-jerking going on (not just you).

Do you plan to read it and discuss further, perhaps starting another thread?


196 posted on 07/07/2009 1:59:59 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg
Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy and for more government regulation of national economies

All fascists/all the time.

I'll have to look over this thread. I'm guessing the rapture theorists are getting all excited about it.

203 posted on 07/07/2009 2:28:41 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg

The Beast?


205 posted on 07/07/2009 2:34:16 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg

Apparently the pope ain’t a free market capitalist.

Probably isn’t celebrating Calvin’s 500th either.

The only controlled markets I recall from the bible were within beseiged, decadent cities.


206 posted on 07/07/2009 2:50:31 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg

I’m not going to read the whole thread. Did the usual gang-sters show up?


269 posted on 07/07/2009 4:27:33 PM PDT by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg
All fascists/all the time.

A perfect epithet for anti-Catholic bigots of all times.

295 posted on 07/07/2009 7:50:48 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg

Jeepers. Thanks for the ping!


321 posted on 07/07/2009 9:54:08 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; airborne; AngieGal; AnimalLover; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; backhoe; ...
DEAR HEART . . .

You and I are not viewed overly fondly by a significant chunk of the RC's.

And, frankly, you and I have quite divergent perspectives on Calvinism.

However, I believe that we both care sincerely for the lost, the posers, the pretenders, the deceived, the clueless, the RELIGIOUS, the idolaters . . . of every stripe, flavor and label.

I believe that we can both agree with the Scripture that God would not prefer that any were lost . . . though we might have quite different perspectives on the 'therefore what's.'

Would I be wrong that you care similarly?

In any case, this post RE The Pope's calling for a more comprehensive world government leaves no room for rationalizations. This is a critical issue. One is either FOR the looming world government and its leader satan

!!!!OR!!!!

One is wholeheartedly, emphatically and thoroughly

AGAINST

The looming global government of Biblical END TIMES PROPHECY.

There is NO room for middle ground. The earlier Vatican encyclicals straddling the bob-wire fence are hollow, nonsense.

POLITICAL, BUREAUCRATIC, RELIGIOUS, FANCY WORD-DANCING over and around the issues is SEDUCTIVE, demonized nonsense regardless of who engages in it. And there will be an abundance of such word-dancing from many flavors of RELIGIOUS centers power between now and Armageddon.

Folks who are soooooooooooooo addictively reverentially adoring of structures, leaders, philosophies, personages, rituals, customs, organizations . . . ANY-thing, EVERY-thing LESS THAN GOD ALMIGHTY . . . such that they cannot/WILL NOT receive the truth of these words are on very dangerous ground. They MUST decide at the earliest opportunity to put GOD ALMIGHT--THE LORD JESUS--FIRST, FOREMOST IN THEIR LIFE.

Some will rationalize that they are merely "DEFENDING THE TRUTH" etc. etc. etc. yada, yada, yada. GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH OF THAT. The piercing discerining fire of Holy Spirit will be striking and slicing through the rationalized demonic chaff of many such thoughts anew for some who are reading these words. Some will have a new degree of freedom of choice upon reading these words. THEY MUST NOT shuffle that freedom aside and instead cling tighter to the dry husks of demonized RELIGION.

They MUST break free and CLING INSTEAD MORE TIGHTLY THAN EVER TO JESUS AND JESUS ALONE.

FORSAKE

!!!!ALL!!!!
ELSE
SAVE
CHRIST
ALONE

Some folks will be inclined to rationalize that ALL their rituals, structures, adorations of personages, individuals, offices, organizations, customs etc. IS putting Christ first. The RELIGIOUS leaders 2000 years ago pontificated similarly. Christ would have none of it then. His Spirit will have none of it now. His Spirit knows THE TRUTH about all hearts regardless of the mental rationalizations to the contrary.

This is true of folks in EVERY denominational, organizational, "Christian" group.

We are at the door of the slippery slope rushing headlong at an ever faster clip to Armageddon. Any other view is blind, deaf, dumb, clueless. Sorry. It has nothing to do with my personal perspective. The Scripture and obvious global evidence no longer leave any room for any other perspective to be called truth on that issue.

I don't recall ever writing such a fierce post. It shocks and sobers me to watch the words come out of my fingers. I have a slight human tendency to want to say "But Lord . . . " Yet HE WILL HAVE NONE OF IT. The PRESS of . . . an incredibly strong hand at my back is unmistakable. The words from these flawed humble fingers will be truth and life from The Lord when Holy Spirit confirms them as such and the individual receives them as such.

I certainly encourage folks to weigh these words and TAKE THEM TO THE LORD FOR HIS CONFIRMATION OR NOT.

However, IF AND WHEN THE LORD confirms them to an individual's heart and mind--THEN, they have no choice but to follow through AS THE LORD WOULD HAVE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL ACCORDINGLY.

I encourage folks to

submit wholesale, anew

TO
GOD ALONE
CHRIST ALONE
HOLY SPIRIT ALONE!
FORSAKE
ALL
ELSE;
!!!!ALL!!!!
ELSE!

I don't know how to describe what I feel and what is pouring through my spirit as I write this post. I don't ever recall feeling quite the same way ever before.

I'm taken quite by surprise by it as I do it. I did not expect this as I began this post.

I just know emphatically that these issues are ETERNAL issues. ETERNAL destinies will be decided based on these issues.

Organizations, structures, rituals, personages, adorations of anything else, rationalizations, idolatries, smug 'in-group' confidences; human habits; customs; unforgiveness, pride, judgmental, self-righteousness, righteousness in anything else but the Blood of Jesus; forms of Godliness while denying the Power thereof; "social custom-affinity-'Christianity;'" works of the flesh; confidence in the flesh; . . . have only death as fruit.

PRETENDING and rationalizing otherwise will not enliven the corpse.

Clinging to dry husk demonized RELIGION will not enliven the corpse.

Taking offense at the fierceness of this post will not bring life.

LIFE
IS
IN
CHRIST,
HIS BLOOD,
ALONE!

NOTHING else is sufficient.
NOTHING else is remotely sufficient!
NOTHING else has a whiff of sufficiency.
NOTHING else has a sub-atomic particle's worth of sufficiency.

Via Steve Foss: Psalm 132:7-9:

Let us go into His tabernacle. Let us worship at His footstool. Arise, Oh Lord, to Your resting place. You and the Ark of your strength. Let our Priests be clothed with Righteousness. And let your saints shout for joy.

.

Virtually every "Christian" organization and congregation has evolved customs that have become construed as and labeled as, believed to be, to equal, to result in "RIGHTEOUSNESS" when they are, in fact, a human, if not, demonized stench.

GOD SEEKS TO MEET with each individual . . . all the time, throughout all our days and moments. All the more so at places called His houses of worship.

Yet, most congregations focus on everything but RELATIONSHIP immediacy, intimacy, dialogue, the PRESENCE of The Lord IN DIALGOUE with each individual and with each group. Tickling itching ear "Christianity" does NOT cut it.

[See Mat 12:3; Mat 24:1-2--a prophetic warning of The Lord]

RELIGION has taken the place of RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

RELIGION has taken the place of living out God's priorities with one another . . . the 2nd Commandment and the Golden Rule.

Folks follow through on rituals and congratulate themselves foolishly that they are 'spiritually' safe and quite OK--top flight even--when they've not really even entered the Doorway of RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD nor even healthy, authentic relationship with one another.

God will not be marked. His priorities are clear in Scripture. NO rationalizations, nor rituals otherwise will absolve anyone of any degree of ignoring God's priorities. And every congregation has it's seductive rituals in all denominational organizations. Some rituals in and of themselves are fairly benign--until folks IMPUTE to them, Salvific redemptiveness. White-washed tomb RELIGION will never cut it--no matter how quaint, cute, rosy, warm and fuzzy the rituals involved.

Satan is not playing a shallow, inconsequential game regarding globalism.

NEITHER IS GOD.

#################################################

GOD ALONE IS GOD.
GOD ALONE IS SUFFICIENT.
GOD ALONE IS WORTHY.

#################################################
#################################################

BTW, The following link to a Sid Roth interview with Grace William and the MIRACULOUS music GOD HAS BEEN RELEASING THROUGH HER as well as her miraculous healing . . . her atheist mother's conversion etc. It includes the touching and impactful "DON'T EVER LET ME GO." It's well worth a listen.

Grace William's own website is:

The Sid Roth interview is at:

http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_&page=NewsArticle&id=7505

351 posted on 07/08/2009 5:45:38 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

To: Dr. Eckleburg

Who would have figured that!!! Think we will be required to wear funny hats and bow down before the pope to buy anything under his proposals? I mean, its not as if Catholics themselves don’t believe that the anti-Christ will be the pope.


371 posted on 07/08/2009 8:09:06 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 189 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson