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To: wbones8765
IMO, a natural born citizen is someone born to parents who are U.S. citizens who are of legal age to convey citizenship to the child.

Existing law states that for citizenship to be conveyed to a child that one or both of the parents have to have been a citizen residing in the U.S. for at least 5 years past the age of 14.

Here is what the State Dept says:

"Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

He clearly stated himself numerous times that his mother was only 18 when he was born, so as far as I'm concerned Pres__ent with no ID 0bama is not now nor was he ever a natural born citizen. That is why he refuses to pay the $20 plus postage to provide his vault copy of his long form birth certificate as well as his college transcripts and other documents.

13 posted on 06/30/2009 10:17:40 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (If a muslim terrorist contracts swine flu, does he still get his 72 virgins?)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

When our copnstitution was written some of the words had a slightly different meaning than today. When dealing with the constitution you have to look at them in that context. There is another comment that takes the definition back to 1583. The state department is not the Supreme Court. Laws can be challenged and are regularly.


17 posted on 06/30/2009 10:35:50 AM PDT by wbones8765 ("Give me liberty or give me death")
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To: 2CAVTrooper

“Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock”

How could Stanley Ann and Barack Sr have been “IN WEDLOCK”??
Barack Sr was already married and the father of 2 when he first came to the USA.

IF he and Stanley Ann “got married” it would be bigamy, and therefore not recognised.

Has anyone come forward and shown proof they were ever married? Is there record of their “divorce”?
If bigamy was involved, I am under the impression that an ‘anullment’ would be the legal document.


22 posted on 06/30/2009 10:43:41 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 2CAVTrooper
This passage from the State Dept. website matters only if Obama was not born in Hawaii; e.g., if he was born in, say, Kenya. If he was born in Hawaii, he is “natural-born” even if both parents were Tanzanians. This issue has been beaten to near-death in many previous threads. The “search” button is your FRiend.
27 posted on 06/30/2009 11:14:36 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: 2CAVTrooper
Existing law states that for citizenship to be conveyed to a child that one or both of the parents have to have been a citizen residing in the U.S. for at least 5 years past the age of 14.

The law you cited only deals with someone born abroad. The 14th Amendment governs when someone is born in the US- other than a few exceptions (such as children of diplomats), anyone born within the US is a natural born citizen.

The law you cited was meant to deal with a situation where only one parent was a citizen, but they did not spend any significant time living in the US.

29 posted on 06/30/2009 11:22:08 AM PDT by Blackacre
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