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Iran's mass arrests: Broadest since 1979 Islamic revolution
csmonitor.com ^ | 6/28/2009 | Dan Murphy

Posted on 06/28/2009 8:29:01 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies

Intimidation of regime opponents with arbitrary detention or house arrest is nothing new in Iran. But the country's current crackdown against citizens angry at the apparent rigging of the June 12 presidential election in favor of the incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is its broadest since the aftermath of the Islamic revolution in 1979.

Despite the effectiveness of beating and shooting protesters upset with the results of the June 12 presidential election – the streets of major Iranian cities were quiet over the weekend – the pace of arrests has hardly slowed as Mr. Ahmadinejad and his supporters try to consolidate their victory.

On Sunday, the government-linked Fars news agency reported that eight Iranian employees of the British Embassy in Tehran were arrested and stood accused of inciting the unrest over the election. British Foreign Secretary David Miliband called the arrests "harassment and intimidation" and added, "the idea that the British embassy is somehow behind the demonstrations ... is wholly without foundation."

The embassy workers join roughly 40 reporters and hundreds of student protesters, academics, and political activists held in detention centers around the country.

Basiji militiamen, shock-troops loyal to Iran's most hard-line clerics, have raided and beaten residents in their homes for shouting "God is great" from their rooftops – a form of protest borrowed from lead up to the 1979 revolution.

"It's the scale of the arrests that's so incredible," says Babak Rahimi, an American academic who specializes in Iran at the University of California San Diego, who recently returned from a trip to Iran.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; islamofascism

1 posted on 06/28/2009 8:29:02 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Going nowhere..., as long as those people remain *adherents* to the evil, oppressive and violent government idealogy, called Islam. Their only route to freedom is to throw overboard anything to do with the Prophet Mohammed, or the Koran and/or Sharia Law and denounce Allah as a false and evil god.

Then and only then, will they ever see freedom. At this point, anyone who calls himself an adherent of that evil governmental idealogy (called Islam) has “signed onto slavery” for life...

I wonder how many are thinking about Tiananmen Square, today?


Impact on domestic political trends

The Tiananmen square protests dampened the growing concept of political liberalization in communist countries that was popular in the late 1980s; as a result, many democratic reforms that were proposed during the 1980s were swept under the carpet. Although there has been an increase in personal freedom since then, discussions on structural changes to the PRC government and the role of the Communist Party of China remain largely taboo.

Despite early expectations in the West that PRC government would soon collapse and be replaced by the Chinese democracy movement, by the early 21st century the Communist Party of China remained in firm control of the People’s Republic of China, and the student movement which started at Tiananmen was in complete disarray.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989

The result of what happened in Iran... a long-term *setback* in any release of power from the evil, oppressive and violent governmental idealogy, that is called Islam...

And few will every abandon that evil system of Islam, either, as they continue to choose to be enslaved by Islam.


2 posted on 06/28/2009 8:36:26 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It is not just the arrests that are on the large size, so are the demonstrations.

If what I read from a machine translation from a twitter blurb this morning is correct the demonstrations are huge.

From Twitter:

“Many of the people Shemiran moving towards the mosque are. Around 700 thousand population, a large mosque in cassock and surrounding are “

(machine translations are always suspect, but the 700 was sent in numerals and the rest was spelled out with the Farsi word for “thousand”.)

If correct that is a huge demonstration.


3 posted on 06/28/2009 9:36:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

We might now see a “Cultural Revolution” in Iran similar to what happened in China in the late 60s. And this whole thing was setup as a pretense for it.

Could be some very dark days ahead in Iran. Expect mass arrests and plenty of executions.


4 posted on 06/28/2009 9:38:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Star Traveler

Did the Christians of the Dark Ages throw out Jesus with the ruling churches? No. They cleansed the society of those who used religion as a means to control the masses and the result was the rennaisance.

When a people are imprisoned in their circumstances like those in Iran, the only thing they can call upon is their beleif in God Almighty to gain the confidence and courage to put their lives on the line.

If you think back to the scene in “Saving Private Ryan” of the sniper in the belltower reciting scriptures of bravery while he was shotting German soldiers while watching the tank taking aim on his position knowing he was about to die, these people have no weapons and still they resist.

Geez, let them scream the only thing they know! At least they are screaming.


5 posted on 06/28/2009 9:40:05 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

6 posted on 06/28/2009 9:45:37 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: mazda77

You said — Did the Christians of the Dark Ages throw out Jesus with the ruling churches? No. They cleansed the society of those who used religion as a means to control the masses and the result was the rennaisance.

There is a total and dramatic difference between what you find from Christianity and what you find from the government idealogy called “Islam”

And it’s in that difference where the *problem* is...

In that “government idealogy” that is called “Islam” it’s *hard coded* in the materials composing that idealogy (the Koran and the sayings of their Prophet Mohammed, along with their own writings on how to apply it) — that there is *absolutely no separation* between anything religious and the government. It’s one and the same. And if anyone tries to tell them that their Prophet Mohammed is wrong in that respect or that what the Koran says is wrong — there’s only one answer for you (or whomever would say that) — you need to be killed.

In fact, anyone who proposed to any adherent of Islam that they separate out the government from “going to church” (in terms of *mandating* an “religious order” through the government) they will tell you that this is against the teachings of Islam. Democracy is an *abomination* to Islam. It’s considered a work and a tool of Satan, trying to subvert Islam.

This is all *harrd-coded* into that government idealogy that is called “Islam”. And it’s a “government idealogy” because Islam has no other meaning for it.

In addition, in this government idealogy, the adherents are told to *lie* about their belief, in order to protect Islam, they are told to kill people because of what the government of Islam says, they are told that they are to overthrow other governments and nations either by subterfuge or by violent overthrow. These are things that the *adherents* themselves are to do, and they are to *subjugate* the entire world to this “government of Islam” by their own actions of violence, terror and murder and mayhem and indiscriminate killing. This is “built into” the very writings of Islam, themselves.

ON THE OTHER HAND...., you go to the writings of Christianity (since you bring up this particular one) and look at what it says about the “government” in comparison to the “Gospel”.

In looking at what the *adherents* to Christianity are *told* to do, themselves — there’s nothing in there about taking over governments. There’s nothing in there about creating *terror* in others. There’s nothing in there about committing violence upon others. There’s nothing in there about adherents chopping off heads. There’s nothing in there about the adherents of Christianity being required to stone people. There’s nothing in there about Christians forcing others to *become Christian* or else they will be killed. There’s nothing in there about anyone who leaves Christianity that they are supposed to be killed.

So, the governmental idealogy of “Islam” mandates all that, from its own materials, absolutely requiring its adherents to behave that way. And in regards to Christianity, it doesn’t even mandate that the Christian adherents “overthrow governments” but to live peaceably with others, and within whatever government they happen to be in.

Christianity does not mandate that governments be set up *requiring* everyone become a Christian, or else they are a second class citizen, have to pay an extreme tax, and/or be killed.

Islam, on the other hand, has *no separation* of government from the writings of the Koran and the Prophet Mohammed. It’s one and the same.

One is a violent, oppressive and murderous and evil system of government (called “Islam”), while the other (Christianity) teaches none of that and instructs none of its adherents to do so....


7 posted on 06/28/2009 10:13:28 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Is the practice of stoning any more of an atrocity than burning someone alive at the stake because their natural human thoughts and questions differed from the teaching of a priest or just because they did not follow the piper? So the simple solution was to declare them a witch and light the fires; problem solved.

I am not defending Islam in any way, my point was to say there is an awakening of the oppressed within the Islamic states and their screaming out to their divine strength is basic human nature when faced with seemingly insurmountable odds of living past the next day for simply doing so. People live what they learn and if the only learning is to cry out for Allah, it is no different than for you to be yelling out to God for strength. In case you missed it, they were also screaming “Death to the Islamic Regime” and “Death to the Mullahs” as well.

In breaking the Mullah’s lock on thought, they can be free to learn and think about other religions while freely searching their souls for the answers they need to resolve what torments them inside. Truth is a very stubborn thing when it is exposed to the light.

Either support them in their quest to be free or you alienate them to be your enemy forever.


8 posted on 06/28/2009 12:52:34 PM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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I read about Christianity from the Gospels and from the Apostles and I don’t see anything about stoning. Now, maybe I find some people doing some stoning, but I can’t point back to those Gospels and what Jesus said and what the Apostles said and support the stoning.

IN FACT — what I *can do* is use those very documents to *fight against* what those “stoners” do... you see.

NOW..., on the other hand, when you’ve got documents that say that *government* is Islam and that you kill and murder and chop off heads and cause *terror* and violently overthrow nations and people and so on until you conquer the entire world — and that *is written* into the very fundamental documents themselves — that “adherent” has *no basis* to fight against these actions — other than “leaving” the evil governmental all-encompassing idealogy of Islam.

So, what I’m saying is that since the Muslim adherent already *knows* these things are *commanded* by their basic writings — they *already know* that the *only alternative* is to declare Islam false, the Prophet false and Allah false. If they don’t — then they are saying that they *believe* them — and thus they *must* go along with all this murder and mayhem and terror and so on...

That’s the difference... it’s in the *basic documents* themselves, not the teachers....


9 posted on 06/28/2009 12:59:53 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

I guess it is impossible to have an intellectual discussion with someone about apples when all they want to talk about is oranges.

I’m so sorry you are so full of hate that you can’t separate one from the other. The people from the Theocracy.

ZOT.


10 posted on 06/28/2009 3:23:22 PM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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You said — I’m so sorry you are so full of hate that you can’t separate one from the other. The people from the Theocracy.

This is one prime example of the “up-side-down” world that we live in... Let me explain.

You see, if one DESCRIBES someone who murders, kills, maims, chops off heads, engages in the violent overthrow of governments, teaches people to blow themselves up, lies as a doctrine of their belief system — then the person who *describes this* — is the one who is “filled with hate”

BUT, the person who *DOES THIS* (that which is described) — apparently is not filled with hate... LOL...

Now, that is what I call an “up-side-down” world and the “mentality” that is involved...

And this is “precisely* the “politically correct thinking” that is destroying Western Civilization and why those who *are filled with hate* (in *doing* these things) will be the ones who take over this country.


11 posted on 06/28/2009 3:35:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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