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2 FutureGen partners drop out of coal project
Yahoo! via AP ^ | 6/25/2009 | David Mercer

Posted on 06/28/2009 6:02:52 AM PDT by shove_it

Just two weeks after the federal government revived plans to build the FutureGen power plant in eastern Illinois, two of the experimental coal plant's financial backers said Thursday they are withdrawing.

The exit of American Electric Power Co. and Southern Co. leaves the nine power and coal companies that are still part of what's known as the FutureGen Alliance searching for new partners to help cover building and startup costs they expect to reach roughly $2.4 billion.

The Department of Energy said June 12 that it would provide just over a billion dollars in stimulus money as it agreed to restart the long-stalled project, aimed at proving that the pollutant carbon dioxide can be removed from coal and safely stored.

Both AEP and Southern, two of the country's largest utilities, cited concerns about cost.

AEP says it will leave the project by July 1, mentioning both uncertainty about its details and how much money the Columbus, Ohio-based utility would have to spend.

"There's like a billion dollar shortfall between what the alliance originally agreed to fund and what we think it's going to cost," AEP spokeswoman Melissa McHenry said. "There's not a definitive message from the Department of Energy of what scope and scale the project" will be, she said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: cleancoal; dimbulb; energy
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1 posted on 06/28/2009 6:02:52 AM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

Related story: AEP sees carbon capture from coal ready by 2015

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idAFN2529851820090625?rpc=44


2 posted on 06/28/2009 6:05:51 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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Maybe it has something to do with the recently passed cap and trade bill, by the House.


3 posted on 06/28/2009 6:22:34 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Well, President Obama can always build some power plants and sell Electricity. Have the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers get those plants up and running, and government can bail out all of the independent energy companies...


4 posted on 06/28/2009 6:25:42 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: shove_it

Only politicians can believe we will find a method to burn carbon and not produce carbon dioxide.


5 posted on 06/28/2009 6:38:18 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Too many zeros in the budget. And the White House.)
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To: CPOSharky
When you burn coal, the flue gas has about 14% carbon dioxide by volume. All you have to do is stick a chemical plant in the flue gas stream to capture the CO2. We already have chemical plants on flue gas streams to capture sulfur oxide emissions, so adding yet another chemical plant shouldn't be a huge problem.

With the CO2 scrubber in place, all that's left to figure out is what to do with hundreds of millions of tons of the stuff that will pile up every year. Most people in the business want to shove it down a hole, back into the ground where they expect that it will stay firmly locked away for thousands of years.

Just don't ever read about Lake Nyos in Nigeria, though. It might give you some concerns.

6 posted on 06/28/2009 6:46:35 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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The point is that there is no need to pump all the CO2 into the ground. It is a waste of energy. The utility companies will only do it if they are convinced that the govt will continue to provide the subsidies to build them and operate them..or pass it along to rate payers.
It is far better to spend the money on nuclear power.
The lake in Nigeria is what happens when you have a currupt banana republic. One where there is no law.
It is not a typical pipeline situation.


7 posted on 06/28/2009 7:12:27 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“All you have to do is stick a chemical plant in the flue gas stream to capture the CO2.”

That’s a pretty expensive “all you have to do”.


8 posted on 06/28/2009 7:16:15 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

It’s just like in the computer world writing software where it’s called a “SMOP” — a Simple Matter Of Programming. Nothing to it.


9 posted on 06/28/2009 7:27:54 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

My thought exactly - inversion is a begger.


10 posted on 06/28/2009 7:31:05 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. Sure it can be done but it’s expensive.


11 posted on 06/28/2009 7:32:01 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: shove_it

Simple solution...nationalize the slugs wanting to jump ship.


12 posted on 06/28/2009 7:34:09 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: shove_it

Can’t blame them.

I recall ZerO saying specifically that he would make coal generation so expensive coal plants would fold and /or no others would be built.

Anyone have that sound clip?


13 posted on 06/28/2009 7:40:37 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Oldexpat; ProtectOurFreedom
The point is that there is no need to pump all the CO2 into the ground. It is a waste of energy. The utility companies will only do it if they are convinced that the govt will continue to provide the subsidies to build them and operate them..or pass it along to rate payers.

Why not pump it into green houses and grow food?

I guess those mean, selfish democrats want children to starve. ;-)

14 posted on 06/28/2009 7:44:51 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: shove_it

For that price, you ought to be able to build a two or three reactor powerplant. I’d pull out of a two to 3 billion coal plant as well.


15 posted on 06/28/2009 7:45:52 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: shove_it

Obama promised to put the coal industry out of business by making it too expensive to invest in coal. He’s on his way to making his goal.


16 posted on 06/28/2009 7:50:41 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Yes, sarcasm. Sorry it was too close to reality.

CO2 capture and sequestration is an extremely difficult technical problem, unbelievably expensive, and highly risky from a geological perspective.


17 posted on 06/28/2009 8:08:18 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Vinnie
...under my plan, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket...
18 posted on 06/28/2009 8:10:40 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

All you have to do is come up with some process to take CO2, water and some energy source (perhaps solar) and somehow change the CO2 and the water into a useful compound like a sugar or something. I wonder if that’s possible.


19 posted on 06/28/2009 8:12:45 AM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That’s the truth.


20 posted on 06/28/2009 8:39:14 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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