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Michael Jackson is dead [Updated]
LA Times ^ | 6.25.09

Posted on 06/25/2009 2:45:23 PM PDT by libh8er

Edited on 06/25/2009 3:27:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

[Updated at 3:15 p.m.: Pop star Michael Jackson was pronounced dead by doctors this afternoon after arriving at a hospital in a deep coma, city and law enforcement sources told The Times.]

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To: MeekMom
G-d made a Covenant with the Jews and that still holds. Unless you think G-d breaks his promises.
1,761 posted on 06/26/2009 3:03:30 PM PDT by Borges
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To: MeekMom; WKB; greyfoxx39

Exactly what kind of stuff is this site quoting to support the attendance at Sunday and Wednesday services?

What the heck is Didascalia?

And why is this site teaching that baptism is essential for salvation and not Christ alone? The thief on the cross didn’t get baptized. According to this site, he didn’t make it to heaven, so Jesus must have lied when He said that the thief would be with Him in Paradise.

Read Galatians. The Law was put in charge to lead us to Christ, not to lead us to baptism. Teaching that baptism is necessary is teaching that salvation depends on baptism, not Christ alone.


1,762 posted on 06/26/2009 3:04:11 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: TaraP

Tara, since there is no sin in Heaven, there will be no sinners in heaven.

Those who have not confessed Christ as Lord, repented of their sins and been immersed for the forgivenss of those sins will be lost eternally.

Do you believe that?


1,763 posted on 06/26/2009 3:04:31 PM PDT by MeekMom (http://www.soroswatch.com/)
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To: metmom

http://www.bible.ca/indexsalvation.htm

...fyi


1,764 posted on 06/26/2009 3:05:25 PM PDT by MeekMom (http://www.bible.ca/indexsalvation.htm)
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To: Borges

the Jews, today, like in the olden days all have a free will. They can either choose to obey the Christ or suffer eternally like any other group of people.


1,765 posted on 06/26/2009 3:07:39 PM PDT by MeekMom (http://www.bible.ca/indexsalvation.htm)
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To: MeekMom; Zionist Conspirator
the Jews, today, like in the olden days all have a free will. They can either choose to obey the Christ or suffer eternally like any other group of people.

Do you think G-d breaks his promises? Changes his mind?
1,766 posted on 06/26/2009 3:12:07 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

no Borges, He is the same yesterday, today and forever.

We will be judged according to the Word of God.


1,767 posted on 06/26/2009 3:15:23 PM PDT by MeekMom (http://www.bible.ca/indexsalvation.htm)
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To: MeekMom
He and millions of other muslims will be judged accordingly.

Right.  We will ALL be judged equally.  From the atheists and agnostics to the radical Muslims.  Satan chose, and was tossed out, but yet Satan believes in the Holy Word as much as a fervent follower of Christ does, he will never enter into the Kingdom because he already chose his fate.  Satan is powerless beyond deceiving and persuading God's children to question God.

1,768 posted on 06/26/2009 3:15:36 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: Borges

Bless her heart


1,769 posted on 06/26/2009 3:15:37 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: MeekMom

What I am saying..If Muslims in Saudi Arabia who only have been taught Islam, know very little of Jesus Christ, only by what is taught to them in the Koran their entire life, is GOD going to condemn them to eternal death?

What about Orthodox Jews that obey Torah to the letter and do not understand Jesus Christ? are they going to be condemned?

I think Jesus will reveal who he is to these people..

The blasphemy I feel that GOD will not forgive is people like Chistopher Hitchens, Bill Mahr, Richard Dawkins Ex Christians now Atheists, Christian religions who endorse Homosexual Marriage and teach Jesus is not the only way....These people who have known Jesus Christ and now deny him, mock him, defame him, these people will be judged more than harshly.... This is the unforgiveable sin...


1,770 posted on 06/26/2009 3:16:31 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: TaraP

Dawkins isn’t a blasphemer in the technical sense is he? He’s not religious to begin with.


1,771 posted on 06/26/2009 3:18:26 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

No GOD does not change...

GENESIS 12:3
King James Bible
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.


1,772 posted on 06/26/2009 3:20:27 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: TaraP

Tara,

God is not a respector of persons or sins.

All sins are equal and any person not having obeyed Christ before he dies will suffer eternally. There are no exceptions hon. At least God didn’t tell us of any or refer to any exceptions in the entire New Testament.


1,773 posted on 06/26/2009 3:21:30 PM PDT by MeekMom (http://www.bible.ca/indexsalvation.htm)
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To: All

Here comes the autopsy report....


1,774 posted on 06/26/2009 3:22:29 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Borges

He refers to GOD as a *Myth* *A Spaghetti Monster* he did belong to the Church of England he is a *BLASPHEMER*


1,775 posted on 06/26/2009 3:22:30 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: metmom; MeekMom; greyfoxx39
Most water baptism folks use Peter's statement in Acts 2.38 as their anchor verse and formula that water baptism is essential for Salvation.

38Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit

But that same Peter in Acts chapter 10 at the house of Cornelius said it this way.

Then Peter said, 47"Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.".

Which shows they received The Holy Spirit before they were baptized.

1,776 posted on 06/26/2009 3:23:51 PM PDT by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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To: Borges; MeekMom
Do you think G-d breaks his promises? Changes his mind?

He hasn't changed His mind.  There have been three Covenants throughout Biblical history.  The first is in Genesis and was given to Adam and Eve.  Adam and Eve BROKE that Covenant.  The second is the Covenant you are referring to, given to Abraham which God told Abraham that the Jews were the "Chosen People".  The Jews broke the second Covenant by refusing the Christ Child, the Messiah, the Lamb of God, the Truth, the Good News and the Holy Word (Jesus is all these things). 

God then proclaimed the Cross Covenant on Calvary that we're all to be saved through Him. (This is the whole purpose of the New Testament)

The Cross Covenant is the Covenant which man is living under right this very second.

1,777 posted on 06/26/2009 3:23:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: MeekMom
I perused the site.

You didn't answer the questions.

What is Didascalia and why are they quoting it to support demanding Sunday and Wednesday church attendance?

What about the thief on the cross?

What about the Phillipian jailer to whom Paul said,(ACTS 16:29-32 "The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household." 32Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house."?

Paul never said that to be saved he had to be baptized, just that he had to believe. Was Paul lying then?

Acts 15:19 & 20 19"It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.

According to this site, people in heavily persecuted or remote areas who don't get baptized cause they don't know about it, go to hell. Someone who believes on their deathbed and CAN'T be baptized goes to hell. There've been instances where people have died within days of a decision for Christ and haven't had time to be baptized. All these people go to hell?

Jesus said, "It is finished" when He died. If Christ's death isn't enough to forgive people, then dunking them isn't going to help.

1,778 posted on 06/26/2009 3:24:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MeekMom

So what happens to people who have died never hearing of Jesus Christ?


1,779 posted on 06/26/2009 3:24:33 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: Jrabbit

Wrong thread...this is a religious discussion.


1,780 posted on 06/26/2009 3:25:28 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel!)
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