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To: Fred Nerks

Fred: A blogger mentioned that in “Dreams,” OBH said that Ann’s parents came to Hawaii in 1959 and that Ann and Obama Sr married in 1960. I checked out the digital copy I have & quote below. (There is no other date references to these three events in the book) -— Everywhere else in media, dates for Ann/parents arrival is 1960 & marriage in 1961:

pg 18 (3rd parag):

But Gramps would always swear that one of the astronauts waved just at me and that I waved back. It was part of the story he told himself. With his black son-in-law and his brown grandson, Gramps had entered the space age.

And what better port for setting off on this new adventure than Hawaii, the Union’s newest member? Even now, with
the state’s population quadrupled, with Waikiki jammed wall to wall with fast-food emporiums and pornographic video
stores and subdivisions marching relentlessly into every fold of green hill, I can retrace the first steps I took as a child
and be stunned by the beauty of the islands. The trembling blue plane of the Pacific. The moss-covered cliffs and the
cool rush of Manoa Falls, with its ginger blossoms and high canopies filled with the sound of invisible birds. The North
Shore’s thunderous waves, crumbling as if in a slow-motion reel. The shadows off Pali’s peaks; the sultry, scented air.

Hawaii! To my family, newly arrived in 1959, it must have seemed as if the earth itself, weary of stampeding armies
and bitter civilization, had forced up this chain of emerald rock where pioneers from across the globe could populate
the land with children bronzed by the sun. The ugly conquest of the native Hawaiians through aborted treaties and
crippling disease brought by the missionaries; the carving up of rich volcanic soil by American companies for
sugarcane and pineapple plantations; the indenturing system that kept Japanese, Chinese, and Filipino immigrants
stooped sunup to sunset in these same fields; the internment of Japanese-Americans during the war-all this was recent
history. And yet, by the time my family arrived, it had somehow vanished from collective memory, like morning mist
that the sun burned away. There were too many races, with power among them too diffuse, to impose the mainland’s
rigid caste system; and so few blacks that the most ardent segregationist could enjoy a vacation secure in the
knowledge that race mixing in Hawaii had little to do with the established order back home.

Thus the legend was made of Hawaii as the one true melting pot, an experiment in racial harmony. My grandparents-
especially Gramps, who came into contact with a range of people through his furniture business-threw themselves into
the cause of mutual understanding.

He had already mentioned on pg 11 that Father arrived in Hawaii in 1959

Pg 12: “In 1960, the year that my parents were married, miscegenation still described a felony in over half the states in the Union.”


193 posted on 08/20/2009 6:29:27 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm
A blogger mentioned that in “Dreams,” OBH said that Ann’s parents came to Hawaii in 1959 and that Ann and Obama Sr married in 1960. I checked out the digital copy I have & quote below. (There is no other date references to these three events in the book) -— Everywhere else in media, dates for Ann/parents arrival is 1960 & marriage in 1961:

I can only guess how that came about...the story has it that Stanley Ann graduated from Mercer Island in the summer of 1960...therefor the parent's arrival in Hawaii has been calculated from that; some people may have found it difficult to understand how Madelyn and Stanley Armour Dunham would leave their daughter alone on Mercer Island while they went to Hawaii...

As for the 'married in 1960' date that sounds like an attempt to make the child legitimate. Born in August 1961, must have been conceived in November 1960...

Even the obots that write these stories stumble over the difficulties the chronology of 'Dreams' presents...then he himself confounds the issue by telling how his 'father' was part of the Kennedy airlift - which didn't commence until 1960.

194 posted on 08/20/2009 7:03:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: thouworm
from your excerpt 'Dreams'

...the carving up of rich volcanic soil by American companies for sugarcane and pineapple plantations; the indenturing system that kept Japanese, Chinese, and Filipino immigrants stooped sunup to sunset in these same fields; the internment of Japanese-Americans during the war-all this was recent history. And yet, by the time my family arrived, it had somehow vanished from collective memory, like morning mist that the sun burned away. There were too many races, with power among them too diffuse, to impose the mainland’s rigid caste system...

Conspiracy To Defraud The System.SOURCE

EXCERPT:

...The first task in need of explanation is why would Hawaii aid a known illegal of British birth in illegally obtaining a fake birth certificate? The answer is in 1961 the American public had not yet been herded by Teddy Kennedy and socialists into providing welfare benefits to illegals. Hawaii had a large population of illegals who were slave labor, but were a huge burden to the system in poverty and crime.

The Hawaiian answer, as it was a Democratic state and still is was to start registering all those foreign kids by the thousands. The purpose being to tap into all those federal hundreds of millions then which would profit the state. See all of those poverty programs flowed funds into the pockets of the retailers as the golden goose pipeline. If one makes citizens out of illegals, then Hawaii converts a debt into their asset in obtaining more funds and growing the socialist system which empowers Democratic liberals.

The fact is there are hundreds of thousands of Barack Obama’s registered in Hawaii. Do you think even a Republican governor sitting on this explosive mess wants any of this coming out? An entire state sold out the United States for filthy lucre, because they were importing Asian slave labor. That does not make a great headline, nor, did they probably ever expect a money train welfare illegal would somehow get hisself installed as President which would expose the entire Hawaiian fraud, and you know very well that all of those records would have to be gone through and verified so an Obama repeat would not occur, in all 50 states...

195 posted on 08/20/2009 7:16:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: thouworm
the internment of Japanese-Americans during the war

Obama doesn't even know Hawaiian history. The Japanese-descended Americans of Hawaii were NOT interned during WW2.
826 posted on 04/29/2011 9:58:31 AM PDT by Nepeta
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